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01-01-2019, 09:30 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

If it?s not KT, we are going 4-8 and Moorhead is done. That may be the case even with KT unless he?s a big improvement over Fitzgerald.

Good grief, if KT was an improvement over Fitz then it makes no sense why he couldn't get any playing time at QB this year.
01-01-2019, 09:32 PM
Saltydog

No freaking way we win 9 games next year! It?s more likely to be 7 win ceiling

and a 5 game floor!
01-01-2019, 09:37 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I know Greg. Great guy but as a qb not so much.

Nothing personal against Plump. Of course.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Good grief, if KT was an improvement over Fitz then it makes no sense why he couldn't get any playing time at QB this year.

Not necessarily. Neither Joe nor Fitz chose each other. Benching a two year starter who was coming off of an injury and was close to some school records who was also being marketed as the face of the program would have been some bad optics. And Joe did finally threaten to bench Nick after LSU if he didn't play better.
01-01-2019, 09:40 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Nothing personal against Plump. Of course.

Not necessarily. Neither Joe nor Fitz chose each other. Benching a two year starter who was coming off of an injury and was close to some school records who was also being marketed as the face of the program would have been some bad optics. And Joe did finally threaten to bench Nick after LSU if he didn't play better.

Oh yeah I know you were just telling it like it is about plump. I've even joked with him about his passing ability lol
01-01-2019, 09:46 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Oh yeah I know you were just telling it like it is about plump. I've even joked with him about his passing ability lol

I remember him, Todd Jordan, Taite, and Hudson all getting in trouble or hurt leading to the legend of Mike Pizinski the Polish Rifle being a possible starter for us at QB. I've often said that Pizinski was our best QB in the 1990's because he was always the guy with potential that never played even though he was a walk on and from what I heard he looked really bad in warm ups to the point where Jackie just went with a hurt Jordan and Benard Euell out of the wildcat.
01-01-2019, 09:46 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Nothing personal against Plump. Of course.

Not necessarily. Neither Joe nor Fitz chose each other. Benching a two year starter who was coming off of an injury and was close to some school records who was also being marketed as the face of the program would have been some bad optics. And Joe did finally threaten to bench Nick after LSU if he didn't play better.

I said nothing about benching Fitz or replacing him as starter. KT couldn't even get a series when Fitz was stinking up the place. The one series he got in the week after the LSU game he looked a little overwhelmed.
01-01-2019, 09:49 PM
Pit Bull

It would be really bad if KT and Mayden transferred back to their home states to play for LSU and TAMU respectively. Both were offered by those schools, but chose MSU because of Mullen and his track record with Dak. If I was either one of those I'd be transferring tomorrow. And I guarantee you, KT and Mayden would be stars at their respective home state schools.....AND be thorns in our side for the next 3-4 years. Mullen, to his credit knew how to develop QBs....JoMo does not.
01-01-2019, 09:56 PM
Pit Bull

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Schrader isn't ready to be a starting qb in this league.

He is very thin and will probably get killed in just the OOC portion of our schedule. Mayden is the one most like Dak. He is thick, runs fast, and passes well.....and can take some hits and get right back up. KT needs some more weight as well, but even now is considerably bigger than Schrader. Hell, I think Mayden was even offered by Ohio State. Something tells me JoMo is going to crap this bed big time.
01-01-2019, 09:58 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Let's look at the 1990s:

"Sleepy sucks! Put in Plump!"
"Why are we playing Plump? Put in Todd Jordan!"
"Jordan sucks! Whatever happened to that Hudson kid? We want Taite!"
"Taite sucks, put in that Wyatt kid from Tupelo!"
"Wyatt sucks! Put in that freshman Madkin!"
"Madkin sucks, put Wyatt back in! Shit he sucks too go back to Madkin!"

Wyatt played HS FB in Alabama.
01-01-2019, 09:59 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Wyatt played HS FB in Alabama.

Yep I believe he was from prattville
01-01-2019, 10:04 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

Fitz couldn't do it, but he still got plenty of shots. Look I know your stance on this situation, and you could be right, but its a bad look for Moorhead to be lining him up at RB and WR.

1- JoMo put Hill in over a senior. The evidence shows he plays the best person.

2- it's not a bad look to make a defense guess by having 2 QBs in a set or 2.
01-01-2019, 10:07 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Wyatt played HS FB in Alabama.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yep I believe he was from prattville

Yeah - goofed on that.
01-01-2019, 10:14 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

1- JoMo put Hill in over a senior. The evidence shows he plays the best person.

2- it's not a bad look to make a defense guess by having 2 QBs in a set or 2.

#2, I doubt it shook up their D to see it.
01-01-2019, 10:34 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by msugolf

Its not going to be Key per a current assistant coach I know. If it is, then 2 or 3 other options didn't pan out.

If Key isn't the man JoMo will be fired in year 3.
01-01-2019, 10:39 PM
Scared_Hitless

If KT is not an improvement next year i will be shocked. He is the guy and if he isnt Moorheads days are numbered.
01-01-2019, 10:54 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I think it's going to be Schrader & think we are all going to be surprised at 1. How much he knows the offense & 2. He's athletic enough to at worst do what Fitz did this year. Schrader is faster than Fitz.

Don't underestimate that Moorhead got HIS GUY with Schrader. He got the first offer he handed out when he got to MSU & he got a guy that he's been recruiting since he was a sophomore in HS.

What we don't know about Schrader is how well he already knows this offense. Is it possible that kid that has been recruited by Moorhead since he was a SO in HS & who has been attending Moorhead camps since then would know a ton about this offense already?

How do we know that Schrader isn't ALREADY ahead of the other two QBs in terms of knowing this offense?

Something to think about.

The trick for Moorhead will be to keep the other two QBs from transferring before the 5th game next season while also being convicted in a starter rather than pulling a Mullen & losing to South Alabama because he couldn't decided between Fitz & Williams

Shrader will not start next year. Hes not ready. It will be KT or a grad transfer
01-01-2019, 10:54 PM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by Pit Bull

It would be really bad if KT and Mayden transferred back to their home states to play for LSU and TAMU respectively. Both were offered by those schools, but chose MSU because of Mullen and his track record with Dak. If I was either one of those I'd be transferring tomorrow. And I guarantee you, KT and Mayden would be stars at their respective home state schools.....AND be thorns in our side for the next 3-4 years. Mullen, to his credit knew how to develop QBs....JoMo does not.

Yep I know KT would do well at LSU but he isn't leaving. But JOMO does need to hire a competent QB coach because he isn't getting the job done.
01-01-2019, 11:22 PM
OSCAR

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Originally Posted by msstate7

What if we go 2-10? I don't think we will... just wondering if that would be grounds in your mind

I think 5 wins or more and you have to give him a shot at the rebuild. 2019 was always going to be a rebuild year. He can?t collapse completely but he deserves a shot to show improvement in 2020 implementing his system with his players.
01-01-2019, 11:24 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Yep I know KT would do well at LSU but he isn't leaving. But JOMO does need to hire a competent QB coach because he isn't getting the job done.

I can't see KT in LSU's pro system. Same with Mayden at A&M under Fisher for that matter. I could see KT fit in at Tulane though.
01-01-2019, 11:25 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by OSCAR

I think 5 wins or more and you have to give him a shot at the rebuild. 2019 was always going to be a rebuild year. He can?t collapse completely but he deserves a shot to show improvement in 2020 implementing his system with his players.

I'm certainly disappointed with this season, but I don't wanna fire him. We really have no choice but to ride him out a year or 2 now. Well, unless urban calls us up tomorrow haha

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