"Is Nick better in Practice?".... Moorhead w/o hesitation.. "Yes"

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10-23-2018, 11:59 AM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Is he just comfortable with it or is he just trying to pad his rushing record before he graduates?

I think Fitz actually wants what's best for the team. In the LSU game, I think Aranda forced Fitz into running more,, by adjusted his defense where the quarterback read to Fitz looked like he should keep the ball on numerous plays.
10-23-2018, 12:10 PM
bluelightstar

If Moorhead's career depends on starting a true freshman in Shrader next year -- who, while good, is no Trevor Lawrence or Tua -- he won't be here long.
10-23-2018, 12:21 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

If Moorhead's career depends on starting a true freshman in Shrader next year -- who, while good, is no Trevor Lawrence or Tua -- he won't be here long.

Moorhead isn't going anywhere. His offense is the future of most football. Even the NFL is adapting to it.

If you think that kid is not head and shoulders above others we have for this system you are not looking.

You already saw Moorhead go with Hill over an sec 1200 yard rusher that is a senior. He is not going to suddenly change and give seniority over production.
10-23-2018, 12:34 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I'm in the Moorhead rides or dies with Schrader next year group. That's his guy. He knows this kid has the tools, although raw, to successfully run his offense.

Will it make a difference? Who knows. Like I posted before: If we are still lost as ducks on offense this time next year, no matter who's QB, it will be time to move on.

Shrader is pretty much running JoeMo's offense now with a lot of quarterback reads, in his high school offense. He also has a high football IQ. KT and Mayden will have also had more time to learn and field practice JoeMo's offense for the 2019 season. Some think that Mayden is actually a better fit for JoeMo's offense than the DM one. KT seems a better fit for the DM offense, but that doesn't mean he couldn't run this offense. Neither KT nor Mayden have mastered it yet, and they aren't going to burn Mayden's red shirt. Time will tell on how things go and who moves to the top.
10-23-2018, 12:46 PM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by Brahmabull

Fitz said in his post game interview, they do better in practice with the passing game. Then he said, but that is going against scout team and not really full speed. When you speed the game up, it changes everything.

Why the hell do you not practice how you play?
10-23-2018, 12:55 PM
Cowbell

Didnt our defense dominate our offense in early fall camp? Should Joemo have seen this coming, or is this a result of not letting Fitz get hit in practice? It is baffling that this kid is confused and we had the chance to practice against the best defense in the country for 4 weeks prior to the season. Just baffling.

I also wonder if Aranda was disguising the read man to look like he was doing one thing, but really doing another. This really wouldn't be that hard to pull off since Nick has to make such a quick decision. One slight step here or there could mislead.
10-23-2018, 12:59 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg

Why the hell do you not practice how you play?

Because our scout team can't simulate in practice what it's like going up against the speed and talent of a good SEC defense in a real game. Now if it's the offense not going full speed, against the scout team then that is a big problem. Our scout team is better than SFA's defense so that was no issue in that game. But that's coaching to get them prepared for an actual game day situation.
10-23-2018, 01:01 PM
fishwater99

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

After Fitz kept it on 3rd and goal you could read Joe's lips when Fitz was trotting back to the sideline: "Hand it off!"

If Fitz won't run the play called, then bench him..
10-23-2018, 01:20 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by fishwater99

If Fitz won't run the play called, then bench him..

This. 1000 times. Regardless of whether is selfishness or lack of understanding. I may not understand our offense fully (since nobody seems to), but he has been keeping it when the read says differently since the K State game.
10-23-2018, 01:28 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

This. 1000 times. Regardless of whether is selfishness or lack of understanding. I may not understand our offense fully (since nobody seems to), but he has been keeping it when the read says differently since the K State game.

Aranda set and adjusted his defense so when Nick was just about ready to snap the ball his read told him to keep the ball on numerous plays. Aranda wanted the ball in Fitz's hand only and to run the ball, and he knew we weren't going to beat them trying to pass.
10-23-2018, 02:35 PM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by fishwater99

If Fitz won't run the play called, then bench him..

You are misunderstanding that. He ran the play called. His job is to read it. Keep it or hand off based on defense. He kept it instead of handing it off. was the wrong choice.
10-23-2018, 02:46 PM
RougeDawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Holy damn. If that's true we got a big problem with our coaching staff starting with Moorhead.

I?ll just say that this same person knew about the Cannizzaro stuff a few days before it went public as well. This person is well connected.
10-23-2018, 02:54 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

Take this FWIW but someone who attends practice said we practiced entirely different plays the last two weeks, than we actually ran in the game against LSU. Let that sink in. Two weeks in a pivotal game for a season and most likely a coaching career, and you get into the game and run a complete different set of plays you had practiced the entire two weeks running and implementing.

I?ll just say that the two weeks of practice before LSU, were auburn type plays with an added two QB set of plays. Anyone watching Saturday night knows we ran neither type of play.

So if you really must know, our HC is not putting our players in the best positions to win and be successful.

Eta. Hearing on Friday, that we had continued practicing the Auburn motion plays and added the 2 QB set wrinkle, I thought we would blow LSU out, because they cannot defend that. They defend what we did as well as anyone. Line up, no motion, no fakes, and LSU will eat your lunch. That?s what we did and that was the result.

If this is true it's more evidence that Moorhead is self-sabotaging his HC career. Maybe he realized he's an introvert trying to do an extrovert's job and he's ready to check out.
10-23-2018, 03:01 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

If this is true it's more evidence that Moorhead is self-sabotaging his HC career. Maybe he realized he's an introvert trying to do an extrovert's job and he's ready to check out.

You gotta think guys on staff that are previous D1 head coaches like Hud and Jones are just shaking their heads. I'm almost to the point of believing either one them would be a better head coach than Moorhead.
10-23-2018, 03:17 PM
msugolf

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

I?ll just say that this same person knew about the Cannizzaro stuff a few days before it went public as well. This person is well connected.

It?s funny you say this. I too have heard a similar story. We have a few family friends who are college coaches. Well one of these guys, who used to be a dline coach under Jackie, and was considered pretty elite in his time ? we?ll call him coach PJ. Coach PJ talked to a couple of UK asst coaches after our game with them. He said that it was the strangest thing they?d ever seen. Our offense didn?t run anything in the game that they saw on film and prepared for. And that they basically ran a base defense the entire game.

Take that however you want but it shows me there?s a whole lot of poor planning, organization and communication more than anything else.
10-23-2018, 03:25 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by msugolf

It?s funny you say this. I too have heard a similar story. We have a few family friends who are college coaches. Well one of these guys, who used to be a dline coach under Jackie, and was considered pretty elite in his time ? we?ll call him coach PJ. Coach PJ talked to a couple of UK asst coaches after our game with them. He said that it was the strangest thing they?d ever seen. Our offense didn?t run anything in the game that they saw on film and prepared for. And that they basically ran a base defense the entire game.

Take that however you want but it shows me there?s a whole lot of poor planning, organization and communication more than anything else.

I think Joe may be in way over his head as a HC. Next year will certainly tell the tale.
10-23-2018, 03:32 PM
yjnkdawg

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Originally Posted by msugolf

It?s funny you say this. I too have heard a similar story. We have a few family friends who are college coaches. Well one of these guys, who used to be a dline coach under Jackie, and was considered pretty elite in his time ? we?ll call him coach PJ. Coach PJ talked to a couple of UK asst coaches after our game with them. He said that it was the strangest thing they?d ever seen. Our offense didn?t run anything in the game that they saw on film and prepared for. And that they basically ran a base defense the entire game.

Take that however you want but it shows me there?s a whole lot of poor planning, organization and communication more than anything else.

Stoops said post game that KY ran a simple defense, but that they did a good job of disguising what they wanted to do against us.
10-23-2018, 03:36 PM
I_Spy

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Originally Posted by Coach007

You are misunderstanding that. He ran the play called. His job is to read it. Keep it or hand off based on defense. He kept it instead of handing it off. was the wrong choice.

I can’t blame Fitz, he’s a senior, young wide receivers in a highschool offense. It must suck to be in shoes BUT all games have been winnable, sometimes it seemed nick was forever in the shotgun which wasn’t helping his dominant speed talent at all - so Fitz said what the hey, why not but we should have through all the lackluster offense been trying to work in KT and the running backs.
10-23-2018, 03:40 PM
I_Spy

Or they may have wanted to pass more with Fitz, but it wasn’t the right planning obviously and to me should have just made plays for each QB to run instead of trying to put the wrong size shoe on a horse
10-23-2018, 04:47 PM
Bodaski

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Originally Posted by Coach007

You may not like it... but it is what it is.

You may listen to the question at 13:19.....

What would you expect him to say? No KT is better then Fitz in practice, but we aren't sure if it will transfer to the game field. It was a stupid question that required a comical response.

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