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03-12-2017, 03:34 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by Human Meat

They compete with Alabama every year.

and had the worst offensive coordinator in the conference
03-12-2017, 03:39 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Human Meat

They compete with Alabama every year.

Yeah, lsu fans should be proud. If only we could hang a "we didn't he whipped badly by bama" banner like lsu. A loss is a loss to me
03-12-2017, 03:42 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by msstate7

A loss is a loss to me

Until we upgrade OL talent- it will always be a loss
03-12-2017, 03:43 PM
lamont

and there is a huge difference in competing and being noncompetitive
03-12-2017, 03:44 PM
Human Meat

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yeah, lsu fans should be proud. If only we could hang a "we didn't he whipped badly by bama" banner like lsu. A loss is a loss to me

No point in arguing any further. I simply do not understand your mindset. If things continue as they are now over time, LSU will beat Alabama a few times. We will not. That is the end of the discussion, some folks will never get it.
03-12-2017, 03:47 PM
msstate7

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03-12-2017, 03:48 PM
BayouDawg

Come on 7 you blast Howland when he is in year 2 but are still making excuses for Hev after 8 years. Something don't smell right.
03-12-2017, 03:51 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BayouDawg

Come on 7 you blast Howland when he is in year 2 but are still making excuses for Hev after 8 years. Something don't smell right.

Blast em? I don't think I've blasted any coach. Now I'm critical of in-game decisions of all our coaches (Hev and Mullen included). During the offseason, I'm sunshine pumper for all our coaches haha
03-12-2017, 04:31 PM
1bigdawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Blast em? I don't think I've blasted any coach. Now I'm critical of in-game decisions of all our coaches (Hev and Mullen included). During the offseason, I'm sunshine pumper for all our coaches haha

All coaches named Hevesy.
03-12-2017, 06:12 PM
tireddawg

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Who is talking about beating Alabama? How about just competing with them???

UPig put 30 on them this year, A&M-14, and OM 43...we've only scored as many as 14 once on Bama

2015? Mid Tenn scored more on Bama than we did. Only 3 teams in the regular season failed to get double digits on Bama in 2015- State, Charleston Southern, and UL Monroe

Our OL doesnt even allow us to be competitive with Bama. We put over 300 yards passing on them in 2015- why? We had Derunnya and Ross. Both were All-SEC Wr's. So even when we have had really good WR's and the NFL Rookie of the year at QB- we still couldnt score on Bama. So obviously its something else on offense holding us back. Wonder whats left???

I know we were a better team than Mid TN State. So how could they put up more points? My answer would be, not only the o-line issues but the mental aspect of playing Bama. It seems our guys don't believe they can beat 'em.

I do agree if we had a better o-line, we could compete. It looks as if we'll have one of, if not the best qb in the league while Mullen is here. Just need to get that o-line straightened out.
03-12-2017, 06:19 PM
lamont

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Originally Posted by tireddawg

I know we were a better team than Mid TN State. So how could they put up more points? My answer would be, not only the o-line issues but the mental aspect of playing Bama. It seems our guys don't believe they can beat 'em.

I do agree if we had a better o-line, we could compete. It looks as if we'll have one of, if not the best qb in the league while Mullen is here. Just need to get that o-line straightened out.

Think about this:

We had the NFL ROY at QB (who was 1st team All-SEC) and 2 All-SEC WR's playing against Bama in 2015- and we scored 6 points. So those 2 positions obviously werent the offensive problem. What does that leave Msstate7?
03-12-2017, 06:24 PM
tireddawg

I've read this thread, & maybe it's just going over my head, but what is mstate7 trying to argue?
03-12-2017, 06:28 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by tireddawg

I've read this thread, & maybe it's just going over my head, but what is mstate7 trying to argue?

Oline isn't the only thing holding us back from bama
03-12-2017, 06:40 PM
Maroon Wizardry

to be fair that might have been the best defense in the history of college football... but yes our OL suck. We have had a few busts and a last minute miss with Lashley which is why we are filling the gaps with Jucos. I was also under the impression that Lashley wanted to play for money we wouldn't pay and then alabama cut a check at least those were the rumors... but that is not a path we want to go down.
03-12-2017, 11:07 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Blast em? I don't think I've blasted any coach. Now I'm critical of in-game decisions of all our coaches (Hev and Mullen included). During the offseason, I'm sunshine pumper for all our coaches haha

Cmon mane ... you've questioned whether Howland and Cann has had what it takes, whether they'll turn it around, etc. Your expectations of 1st and 2nd year coaches not named Dan Mullen (and his offensive cronies) is mind-boggling to me. Hell you think Smart should be fired after his first year. I imagine you probably thought the same thing of Saban when he lost to us (Croom) and LMonroe his first year.

But you good dude anyway lol. Not trying to start a war with you here.

Personally ... I'm tired of losing 4 SEC W games every year and finishing 5th or 6th in W. And no ... I don't really care how much Dan makes compared to the other coaches in the west. His job whether he make $1 or $4.5 mill is to win those games.
03-12-2017, 11:15 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Oline isn't the only thing holding us back from bama

I'll agree with this. WRs are killing us too. And Dan's RB philosophy of playing the most senior (not the best) RBs. Hell, our whole offense is killing us against Bama lol. And Dan is supposedly an offensive genius.
03-13-2017, 07:19 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Cmon mane ... you've questioned whether Howland and Cann has had what it takes, whether they'll turn it around, etc. Your expectations of 1st and 2nd year coaches not named Dan Mullen (and his offensive cronies) is mind-boggling to me. Hell you think Smart should be fired after his first year. I imagine you probably thought the same thing of Saban when he lost to us (Croom) and LMonroe his first year.

But you good dude anyway lol. Not trying to start a war with you here.

Personally ... I'm tired of losing 4 SEC W games every year and finishing 5th or 6th in W. And no ... I don't really care how much Dan makes compared to the other coaches in the west. His job whether he make $1 or $4.5 mill is to win those games.

I question all our coaches during the season. I slammed Mullen and Hev plenty during the season. I give our coaches the benefit of the doubt in offseason... if it doesn't work out, I'll be pitching a fit here haha

And don't forget McE in addiction to smart. I look at Florida and Georgia hiring McE and smart hoping to replicate Saban at bama as all the NFL teams hiring belichick assistants... one day people will learn it's Saban and belichick, not the assistants
03-13-2017, 07:32 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I question all our coaches during the season. I slammed Mullen and Hev plenty during the season. I give our coaches the benefit of the doubt in offseason... if it doesn't work out, I'll be pitching a fit here haha

And don't forget McE in addiction to smart. I look at Florida and Georgia hiring smart hoping to replicate Saban at bama as all the NFL teams hiring belichick assistants... one day people will learn it's Saban and belichick, not the assistants

I'll buy most of that so far on coaching trees, especially with Belichick. I believe the verdict is still out on McE & Smart tho. Not enough data yet. That's my main point.

McE has won the East in his 1st 2 years. Not a super major accomplishment but he probably would've finished 2nd in West 1 or both of those years. We'll see what he does over the next 2. Losing Collins may hurt him a good bit too. He probably needs to step up his recruiting.

Fisher (from Saban tree) ain't too bad at FSU. We'll see if Boom learned from his mistakes at UF in next 2 or 3 years at USCe.
03-13-2017, 07:36 AM
THE Bruce Dickinson

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

A) whose fault is that?
B) again- why not include the rest of the West?

We are a SEC West worst 1-11 against Bama and LSU precisely because of our OFFENSIVE LINE talent. It gives us no chance to win.

People keep trying to say we can beat LSU- but we have 99 yards rushing vs them the last 2 years combined. We arent going to beat them doing that.

And in 2014 we had over 300 yards rushing with exactly 0 offensive lineman that are currently playing in the NFL. How did that happen ?

Us being terrible against LSU has a lot more with how we view that game than it does NFL caliber offensive lineman.
03-13-2017, 07:43 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'll buy most of that so far on coaching trees, especially with Belichick. I believe the verdict is still out on McE & Smart tho. Not enough data yet. That's my main point.

McE has won the East in his 1st 2 years. Not a super major accomplishment but he probably would've finished 2nd in West 1 or both of those years. We'll see what he does over the next 2. Losing Collins may hurt him a good bit too. He probably needs to step up his recruiting.

Fisher (from Saban tree) ain't too bad at FSU. We'll see if Boom learned from his mistakes at UF in next 2 or 3 years at USCe.

Good call on fisher... yikes, how'd i forget him. I just really dislike McE and smart for no good reason tbh

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