Nut the F up on Navy, wimps!

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Like I said, this is your schtict. I'm surprised you aren't linking this thread to other boards like you link rant threads here to try and get some support. There's only one person crying in this thread and it's you. You are one sensitive fella.

Take your own advice, Nut the F up, and quit bitching. Grow some thicker skin, and quit calling "but you're a mod", as if you repeating that is going to get me kicked off the board something. Grow up and move on, dude. Jesus. This could have ended yesterday if you weren't so sensitive and thin skinned. I'm done responding to you.

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I don't link "rant" threads. I'm not even signed up there, I don't think. I have linked Rivals threads here from time-to-time to share some of the stupid, nasty shit their fans post over there. I've also once or twice encouraged some here to join in over there because I've been fighting dozens of them by myself over there for years, and it's time consuming to be the only one there putting up a fight.

Oh, and by my count on this thread, it looks like about 60% favor or have no problem with us taking on Navy...so not getting your "90, 95 or 99%" referenced support for your POV. Not that it actually alters the reality one bit. Sometimes the majority is just wrong. After all, Clinton won the popular vote.

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

The last time we beat the Triple Option 1980 Alabama. Emory Bellard "Pardnuhs I invented the Wishbone, I'm gonna show you how to stop it".

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In 2013 we faced an Oklahoma State team that had just hired a new OC. They were a pass-heavy attack the prior years, so we prepared for that, and shut it down early. Then, 25 minutes into the game, on OSU's 6th drive, they completely changed to a triple-option offense. They had 4 productive drives and scored 21 points before our DC Collins realized what adjustments needed to be made.

Once he made those adjustments, we shut the OSU offense down again...but due to our offense going MIA, it was too little too late.

The point is...having a capable DC on staff allowed us to adjust on-the-fly, during the game with positive results. Not having that guy when we played GT was clearly crippling.

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Originally Posted by blacklistedbully

In 2013 we faced an Oklahoma State team that had just hired a new OC. They were a pass-heavy attack the prior years, so we prepared for that, and shut it down early. Then, 25 minutes into the game, on OSU's 6th drive, they completely changed to a triple-option offense. They had 4 productive drives and scored 21 points before our DC Collins realized what adjustments needed to be made.

Once he made those adjustments, we shut the OSU offense down again...but due to our offense going MIA, it was too little too late.

The point is...having a capable DC on staff allowed us to adjust on-the-fly, during the game with positive results. Not having that guy when we played GT was clearly crippling.

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That was nowhere near a wishbone/flexbone Triple Option. And they ate us up in that diamond formation (not "Triple Option"). Poor example IN MY OPINION

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

That was nowhere near a wishbone/flexbone Triple Option. And they ate us up in that diamond formation (not "Triple Option"). Poor example IN MY OPINION

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From our DC Geoff Collins:

"When they came out with the triple-option stuff it took us a while to get adjusted. You sit there all week and prepare to stop such a high-powered offense, and then all of a sudden a novelty shows up, and that’s how they get to you."

He describes the Cowboys' read option in the diamond formation as an inverted wishbone, and notes after the game that in addition to being one of Oklahoma State's lesser-used tactics, the offense changed personnel.

Collins: "What we saw on film was a two-fullback, one-tailback set they ran out of, and what they did against us was a two-tailback, one-fullback group. That added to the deception initially, and it hurt us."

Think I'll take Collin's opinion over yours.

Collins: "It took us a little while to get adjusted to it, but when we did, we’d get tackles for loss."

With the game out of hand, Oklahoma State took the ball with 8:50 remaining. The Cowboys' previous drives of 75, 52, and 82 yards yielded 14 points, but the Cowboys would punt with 5:50 remaining after just five plays, two of which were tackles for loss on runs out of the diamond.

To MSU, this is evidence that they solved the problem, just not fast enough. To the outside observer, it's arguable that had MSU scored even one touchdown up to this point that there would still be a game worth playing.

Collins: "When we first saw the runs, we were two hats short on coverage from what we were in. You need three people on the perimeter: someone outside and someone inside to take on the different parts of the option."

The stop did rally MSU to some degree, and the Bulldog offense marched to the OSU 31-yard line before backup QB Dak Prescott would throw an interception.
Collins: "If we played them next week, I’d run with the plan we put it in at the end of the third, start of the fourth quarter to stop the diamond. We'd be ready for it."

It was on tape, somewhere, but that's the only thing the two coaching staffs could agree upon. Oklahoma State's sudden departure from one of the most potent passing offenses in the country to a triple-option running attack had some precedent. Just where it came from is the debate.

"We saw their offensive coordinator run it at … California, was it? Ship? I knew it was one of the Pennsylvania schools," Mississippi State head coach Dan Mullen said in the post-game press conference

Mullen and defensive coordinator Geoff Collins said it came from Division II Shippensburg University, where new Oklahoma State offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich spent last season calling plays.

Think I'll also take Mullen's opinion over yours.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...sissippi-state

So....Temple just manhandled Navy, holding them to just 10 points. Anybody else starting to come over to my way of thinking on this?