Rosebowl Say Ole Miss has A Player That Lied to NCAA

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10-05-2016, 02:53 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by mic

AJ Brown. I will let the cat out of the bag... That's what I have been told...

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10-05-2016, 02:54 PM
Coldsleeve Jr.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Did rosebowl indicate when this lie was discovered? Unless it was just discovered, you gotta figure the player isn't aj. Surely om wouldn't play a player they know will be ruled ineligible. At least, I don't think they would

This was my initial thought as well. I guess I wouldnt put it past them though.
10-05-2016, 02:54 PM
DudyDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

When it comes to lying to the NCAA, I don't think it really matters what it's about... it's serious

Okay, but is there nothing concrete other than one guy saying they lied? Not saying there isn't, just have a hard time buying into every little rumor unless something real comes up and accepting it as real.
10-05-2016, 02:57 PM
lefty96

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Here's the thing though. They really aren't yet because no one wants to cover the story or talk about it. Ole Miss has been praised this year by Bo Bounds, Sallee, Finebaum, and other national media. The instate news outlets aren't even investigating it while praising OM's WRs.

As of now, the national perception is that Ole Miss is a good program and team. What's embarrassing is that people in the know are allowing what should be an embarrassment, to become a suck off fest.

All you hear on Bo Bounds and other shows is how Freeze does things right while Mullen while Mullen does things wrong, when in fact it's just the opposite. MSU only looks like a poor recruiter because Ole Miss is cheating. Go through OM's roster and tell which of the players would be on our team if they weren't bought off. Our recruiting would've looked significantly better.

Until the NCAA comes down hard, this will never be a big deal. That big expose on Okie State got published, nothing came of it. Unless this turns into some spectacular ncaa case and penalty, it's just message board gossip.
10-05-2016, 03:00 PM
Martianlander

Rosebowl doesn't put stuff out there unless it's confirmed.
10-05-2016, 03:09 PM
ShotgunDawg

Bo Bounds just refers to it as "aggressive recruiting". Like its something that we should all aspire to do. No Bo, it's 17ing cheating. It's going 120 mph with both fingers flicking off the other drivers that are going 75 in a 70.

An "aggressive" driver goes 80 in a 70 or maybe 82, but a dumb 17 goes 120. Make sure we properly categorize what is and what is not "aggressive recruiting"
10-05-2016, 03:14 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by DudyDawg

Okay, but is there nothing concrete other than one guy saying they lied? Not saying there isn't, just have a hard time buying into every little rumor unless something real comes up and accepting it as real.

Dudy, I think it may be a case of TCUN's cheating being so rampant that they can't get out of their own way. We all know about Tunsil's loaners (3x) but are we naive enough to think that he was the only one? Is the NCAA naive enough to think the same.

We all know that many players signing with TCUN are swayed by "red backpacks and Library girls, etc (among other inducements)." Just maybe the NCAA has a lot more than Tunsil-related inducements.
10-05-2016, 03:16 PM
DudyDawg

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Originally Posted by WSOPdawg

Dudy, I think it may be a case of TCUN's cheating being so rampant that they can't get out of their own way. We all know about Tunsil's loaners (3x) but are we naive enough to think that he was the only one? Is the NCAA naive enough to think the same.

We all know that many players signing with TCUN are swayed by "red backpacks and Library girls, etc (among other inducements)." Just maybe the NCAA has a lot more than Tunsil-related inducements.

Oh I'm sure they have way more than Tunsil stuff. Just wanted a little more info
10-05-2016, 03:24 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DudyDawg

Okay, but is there nothing concrete other than one guy saying they lied? Not saying there isn't, just have a hard time buying into every little rumor unless something real comes up and accepting it as real.

Rosebowl has a very good track record on this subject. Why the heck does it matter if true anyway? I want om's NCAA trouble to at least get half the talk here of how bad we suck
10-05-2016, 03:42 PM
StatesboroBlues

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So, if your info is correct, what's the punishment for a player lying to the NCAA? Can he be ruled ineligible to play in NCAA? Please say yes... that MLB draft pick may have become more appealing

We were told that Redmond got a year for the lie and however many games for the violation. Pretty much told the same with Sidney...and then it looks like a year for Dez Bryant also.
10-05-2016, 03:43 PM
StatesboroBlues

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

My guess would be Tunsil, you know the NCAA interviewed him about the loaner cars and you know they asked him if he had received any more benefits. He would have denied it and then then the draft night "I'd have to say yeah" statement. Lie caught.

He said "current" player...
10-05-2016, 03:59 PM
Bodaski

OM is doing to the NCAA what I've heard you do to the IRS in case of an audit. Cover their ass up in paper work leading a 100 different ways and extend as long as possible. They'll get tired of digging and settle.
10-05-2016, 04:13 PM
mic

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Originally Posted by Bodaski

OM is doing to the NCAA what I've heard you do to the IRS in case of an audit. Cover their ass up in paper work leading a 100 different ways and extend as long as possible. They'll get tired of digging and settle.

Yep.. Just going to settle on 25-30 scholarships ..
10-05-2016, 04:19 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Bodaski

OM is doing to the NCAA what I've heard you do to the IRS in case of an audit. Cover their ass up in paper work leading a 100 different ways and extend as long as possible. They'll get tired of digging and settle.

I don't think the NCAA will give in here. They'll just keep digging & giving Ole Miss NOA. Eventually, Ole Miss' recruiting will be so damaged, that the NCAA can just laugh at how Ole Miss extended the uncertainty.

Sure, Ole Miss can cover the NCAA with paperwork, but they are also delaying the opportunity to rebuild their program, & YES Ole Miss will have to rebuild their program at the conclusion of this.
10-05-2016, 04:20 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by mic

Yep.. Just going to settle on 25-30 scholarships ..

You really think it's just going to be 25-30 scholarships. That would be an awful precedent set by the NCAA when, by the rules, they could sanction Ole Miss with north of 100 scholarships.

We need Devious to come on here & spread some knowledge
10-05-2016, 04:29 PM
FISHDAWG

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

You would think too. Lying to the NCAA about recruiting violations is exponentially worse than lying about visiting Deon Sanders. The player should be ruled ineligible for AT LEAST a year and the school should have to vacate all wins in which the player participated.

Death penalty!!! OR....80 over 4 years. Make them suffer.

I have a feeling Thanksgiving night for the next few years just wont be quite the same
10-05-2016, 04:31 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

We need Devious to come on here & spread some knowledge

I'm afraid we're stuck with mr Hyde right now. Perhaps the serum will wear off and allow Dr Jekyll to come back for awhile
10-05-2016, 04:34 PM
DanDority

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You really think it's just going to be 25-30 scholarships. That would be an awful precedent set by the NCAA when, by the rules, they could sanction Ole Miss with north of 100 scholarships.

We need Devious to come on here & spread some knowledge

So what you're saying is, you want someone to tell you what you want to hear. Not necessarily what is going to happen. Just out of curiosity, how bad did the NC2A hit Miami in there latest trouble?
10-05-2016, 04:35 PM
TheRef

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Originally Posted by DanDority

So what you're saying is, you want someone to tell you what you want to hear. Not necessarily what is going to happen. Just out of curiosity, how bad did the NC2A hit Miami in there latest trouble?

You also had the Shapiro situation with that...that is why the NCAA let Miami off the hook so easily.
10-05-2016, 04:36 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DanDority

So what you're saying is, you want someone to tell you what you want to hear. Not necessarily what is going to happen. Just out of curiosity, how bad did the NC2A hit Miami in there latest trouble?

How did Miami's NOA compare to OM's?

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