From SI & Pete Thamel

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

*If they do, it's going to turn college football into college basketball, which is a free for all. They need to make a damn statement, sooner or later.".

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Holy crap. I missed this part.

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

Wait, let me get this straight... Miller said


Among the things Miller says he told the NCAA: Ole Miss had an intricate system in which the school arranged for Tunsil and his family through boosters to get loans, money and free lodging at hotels and residences around Oxford, Miss. He claims he told the NCAA of benefits that spanned nearly three years.

And your response is "meh"?


Hell, how can it get worse?!?

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exactly. The NCAA has texts implicating Kiffin and now implicating Barney. That's staff-wide improper benefits and very damning for them

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I really hope Saban is the driving force behind this investigation. If Saban wants om to burn, they'll burn

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It read like his language, you know he cusses a lot. Now if the word "aight" would have been in the quote, it would be a certainty.

UMiss spin will be and has been that Miller is a liar And everything his says is a lie

Funny thing is the ones actually doing the lying and misleading and have been PROVEN to be doing it is:
Freeze , Bjork and the UMiss PR dept..

I know some were expecting more from this article. But what this article does do is get people talking about it again. I hope an article like this comes out every week or two throughout the off season. Keep it fresh on peoples minds.

BURN BABY BURN!

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Originally Posted by PassInterference

We have Ole Miss helping the Tunsils move to Oxford. Well how about that, I guess that makes Sports Illustrated racist. ED was called racist for suggesting that people who lived in an inner city $40,000 house might need some help moving to Oxford.

Says cell phones were collected. Damn, where did we hear that before?

It enumerates a lot of hard evidence from Miller. Objective evidence trumps credibility arguments every time. Sorry, rebels.

We've got a national article zeroing in on how deceptive Ole Miss's public front has been. Bjork was specifically called out for lying to media about the the case. You've got the NCAA agreeing that Ross Bjork's behavior has been inappropriate. So much for "exemplary cooperation".

We've got MSU people turning Ole Miss...wait, that didn't happen. Sorry, rebels.

We've got a national article saying Ole Miss self-imposed stuff is only a good start. SI is hammering Ole Miss for not so much as firing anybody.

And finally, we've got this national article proclaiming that the NCAA needs to make an example of Ole Miss. The article pretty much says Ole Miss is all-in and has only wrist-slapped itself, whereas the NCAA should to a lot more than that. And they will.

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***insert standing ovation GIF here***

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Originally Posted by spiritual_machine2005

I know some were expecting more from this article. But what this article does do is get people talking about it again. I hope an article like this comes out every week or two throughout the off season. Keep it fresh on peoples minds.

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Agree. It is also a national writer bringing to the nation's attention what we have known for a while. Rebels hope this story would be contained to egg bowl smack talk.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

That confirmed stuff that Coach and Rosebowl have been saying, but nothing really new there, FOR US. Now for the rest of the world there is a lot new there. Good article.

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Exactly, nothing new FOR US, but I don't think that the network of booster loans going out to recruits and their families that allow them to essentially move to Oxford (if they choose) and live well above their means was widely known. This article pretty much 100% substantiates this ongoing practice. I would assume these are the loans that supposedly get paid back after a top flight recruit gets his payday in the NFL draft. Not sure what happens to a recruit that doesn't pan out or gets injured and doesn't get the NFL money to pay these loans back. I guess in that case the loaner has to eat the loss.

"In its response to the NCAA, Ole Miss paints the boosters as rogue and stresses that there was no connection between their actions and the coaching staff."

Dear UNM, does this include the two times that Reverend Freezus was with the SAME booster when recruits were present? Once at his house for breakfast and another time in Memphis? Sounds pretty damned coordinated to me.

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Originally Posted by Mjoelner

"In its response to the NCAA, Ole Miss paints the boosters as rogue and stresses that there was no connection between their actions and the coaching staff."

Dear UNM, does this include the two times that Reverend Freezus was with the SAME booster when recruits were present? Once at his house for breakfast and another time in Memphis? Sounds pretty damned coordinated to me.

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Or when Kiffin introduced Miller to boosters?

My favorite paragraph:

The theory in SEC circles is simple. If Ole Miss doesn't get hit hard after significant academic fraud, heavy booster involvement and a nationally televised admission of a player taking money, the SEC West will turn into the Wild Wild West. The NCAA has a chance to make a statement as a deterrent for future behavior.

A number of us having been spouting this for months and it sounds like we've got agreement from a lot of others in that if UNM gets off light on this then you might as well light a match to the NCAA rulebook and just let recruiting be anything goes.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Bank statements a few years before tunsil's recruitment till his signing are probably requested. If she doesn't produce them, the assumption is guilty as charged

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It says in article Miller stated he provided the NCAA his financials and banking records "which helped investigators verify an $800 payment from a booster in August 2014"

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Originally Posted by Coach34

exactly. The NCAA has texts implicating Kiffin and now implicating Barney. That's staff-wide improper benefits and very damning for them

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This is why Freeze doesn't make it and gets handed a SC

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Originally Posted by ILOATHEBears

This is why Freeze doesn't make it and gets handed a SC

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And the ironic thing is this info from Miller never comes to light if freeze doesn't open his mouth and call him a wife beater. It is obvious from the following quote that Miller was all in with the cheating and ole miss until freeze's comment pissed him off

"Plz do all the u you said to help me and Desiree and my 2 sons I have been ole miss biggest fan 2 times he committed to ga I was there foor u Be there for us when it's time ok"

They turned on him and he screwed them.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Love that SI is essentially calling the NCAA out... Either drop the hammer or just get out the way

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This is why I think UM is in BIG trouble. When the focus is on them they are masters of the spin and can thrive. However, now the focus is on the NCAA as to whether they can retain relevancy in the sports world. Hence I think the Bears get hammered really hard.

And here is what everyone needs to remember...

If Bucky hadn't run his bucktoothed mouth after Tunsil beat Miller into the ground then most of this more than likely never comes to light. If had just stayed quiet and had someone go to Miller and say here's a bag of cash to pretend this never happened I am betting he stays quiet. But nope, Bucky ran his mouth and threw Miller under the bus and royally pissed him off so he took his marbles and text messages and went straight to the NCAA. When this is all said and done with, the bear fans are going to blame Miller and blame us, when the whole time they should be mad because their holier than thou coach thought he was untouchable and above the fray and couldn't stay quiet. His ego will be what ultimately brings down TSUN.

ETA: I just see Confucius was thinking and typing the exact same thing I was at the same time.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

My favorite paragraph:

The theory in SEC circles is simple. If Ole Miss doesn't get hit hard after significant academic fraud, heavy booster involvement and a nationally televised admission of a player taking money, the SEC West will turn into the Wild Wild West. The NCAA has a chance to make a statement as a deterrent for future behavior.

A number of us having been spouting this for months and it sounds like we've got agreement from a lot of others in that if UNM gets off light on this then you might as well light a match to the NCAA rulebook and just let recruiting be anything goes.

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Yep, there is absolutely no way om gets off with a wrist slap and a few schollies taken away. They're going to get hammered pretty hard.

Coach Freezus should have never accused Miller of abusing Tunsil's Mom. Instead, he should have sent Kiffin to visit Miller with a duffel bag of cash and a gag order.
It doesn't matter if he is a scum bag, liar, cheat, woman beater ect.... If he has proof of infractions, that's all the NCAA needs. Millers evidence will prove that OM was just as bad as SMU.

If Tunsil's Mother said they saved up for the new house, fine. The NCAA will ask for bank records. She will say no. Here is the kicker, she was married, so any savings accounts would be joint accounts with Miller's name on it too.
He has probably already proven to the NCAA that there was no savings prior to the move.

They will burn. 25 schollies over 4 years. 2 year bowl ban. Show Clause for the Beav, Kiffin. and a few more.

"Ole miss paints the boosters as rogue and stresses that there was no connection between their actions and the coaching staff"

1. Uh, not buying. You admitted to having one of the boosters with you during an in home visit with a recruit.

2. Under the new penalty structure, it doesn't matter if you knew what improper actions the boosters were taking, no?