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03-26-2016, 10:13 PM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

It's a fight, dude. You can't just 100% blame him and not investigate the situation.

There is a video. What other investigation would you like done that shows more than that?
03-26-2016, 10:14 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

My viewpoint has nothing to do with the fact that it's an MSU player.

Guess what? I also sided with Jameis Winston. Wow just wow right?

Oh, you've just lost your mind. Carry on then.
03-26-2016, 10:14 PM
ShotgunDawg

Hey, here an idea for all the idiots on twitter right now, how about we just let the people who know Simmons decide his fate instead of just blindly kicking him off team.

Social media sucks.
03-26-2016, 10:14 PM
HSVDawg

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Originally Posted by smootness

For the record, the decision on whether or not to allow him to play falls on the school and on Mullen...and I'm fine with whatever decision they make. I don't think this is a big enough thing to have to ruin his career or life or anything, assuming it's a one-time deal. But anyone trying to normalize this or defend him in this instance is the exact same kind of fan that allowed a program like Penn State to get to the point where everyone would turn a blind eye to what went on there.

It's sports, it's not important enough to compromise being a good, honest human being.

+1
03-26-2016, 10:15 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

There is a video. What other investigation would you like done that shows more than that?

You don't even know this kid. You have no idea where his heart is or what even happened. You want to kick him off the team just on this video?
03-26-2016, 10:15 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Taog Redloh

I also sided with Jameis Winston. Wow just wow right?

Wow...just....wow**

No, really. Wow.
03-26-2016, 10:15 PM
msstate7

Jeffrey needs to issue a public apology and get signed up in anger management classes asap if he wants to be here.
03-26-2016, 10:18 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You don't even know this kid. You have no idea where his heart is or what even happened.

So...I guess you would be more than happy to apply that same level of sympathy to other SEC football players who get in/have been in similar situations?
03-26-2016, 10:18 PM
ShotgunDawg

If Mullen kicks him off the team, here's the timeline of what will happen:

April - Kicked off team

August - enrolls at EMCC

September - Plays for EMCC

November - Ole Miss & Alabama proclaim that he's magically rehabilitated

November - He signs with Ole Miss or Alabama

Again, what does this accomplish? Why should MSU be punished for this?
03-26-2016, 10:20 PM
Taog Redloh

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Originally Posted by HSVDawg

There is a video. What other investigation would you like done that shows more than that?

Video conveniently picks up at the 'result', and does not show what led up to it. If a woman insulted my dead family members the results would be the same.
03-26-2016, 10:20 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

So...I guess you would be more than happy to apply that same level of sympathy to other SEC football players who get in/have been in similar situations?

He's not an SEC football player. He's a high school kid who's probably had shady people around for a long time. He's never been in any other trouble & he hasn't had the guidance of our coaches around him to help him. Why would we not enroll him again? Just to make a point?

Again, what does kicking him off the team accomplish? Please answer that
03-26-2016, 10:22 PM
SDDawg

I love all these morality warriors coming out and trashing the kid, it's crazy to see. The problem with zero tolerance is that there is ZERO... and that applies to all of you. Maybe you didn't punch a woman, but did you ever grab one by the arm? Or pound on a table in front of one during an argument? Yell and scream to the point where one was intimidated? Those can all be construed as assault by the police... so guess what? Through the right lens you're guilty, too. Quit judging and let the process play out, give some thought to what's really at stake here not just for football but for a young man's life.
03-26-2016, 10:22 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Again, what does kicking him off the team accomplish? Please answer that

As Smoot said, you should be able to look at this from the point of view of a human being....not a human being who places priority of interpreting right and wrong based on how it helps you win football games.
03-26-2016, 10:23 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by smootness

For the record, the decision on whether or not to allow him to play falls on the school and on Mullen...and I'm fine with whatever decision they make. I don't think this is a big enough thing to have to ruin his career or life or anything, assuming it's a one-time deal. But anyone trying to normalize this or defend him in this instance is the exact same kind of fan that allowed a program like Penn State to get to the point where everyone would turn a blind eye to what went on there.

It's sports, it's not important enough to compromise being a good, honest human being.

What went on at penn state prior to the raping of little kids that eventually led to turning a blind eye to raping little kids?

Eta: or are you equating hitting a female to raping children? I'm fine with whatever punishment Simmons gets, but let's not act like defending hitting a woman is the "exact same thing" as defending raping children.
03-26-2016, 10:23 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Wow...just....wow**

No, really. Wow.

When seeing the evidence- it wasnt hard to side with Winston
03-26-2016, 10:23 PM
SDDawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

He's not an SEC football player. He's a high school kid who's probably had shady people around for a long time. He's never been in any other trouble & he hasn't had the guidance of our coaches around him to help him. Why would we not enroll him again? Just to make a point?

Again, what does kicking him off the team accomplish? Please answer that

None, but a bunch of morality warriors want to try to act tough. Never been under the microscope and never had a day of hardship in their lives. So easy to sit in the ivory tower and judge people tho...
03-26-2016, 10:23 PM
ShotgunDawg

I'm just sick twitter people policing the world & offering their unwanted & unasked for advice.

Mullen should definitely punish him or even suspend him for the season, but he should absolutely enroll him. Would be stupid not too
03-26-2016, 10:24 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Jeffrey needs to issue a public apology

already done
03-26-2016, 10:26 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by SDDawg

I love all these morality warriors coming out and trashing the kid, it's crazy to see.

Not a single person is trashing the kid. Not one.

And that's funny, considering that if discussing the severity of a situation like this, is 'now trashing a kid', what does that make the dozen of threads (ha, jk...hundreds) that rip apart other SEC players for the "mistakes" they've made?
03-26-2016, 10:28 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by SDDawg

None, but a bunch of morality warriors want to try to act tough. Never been under the microscope and never had a day of hardship in their lives. So easy to sit in the ivory tower and judge people tho...

Hmm...

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