NOA Part Duex'

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Originally Posted by RezDawg

It doesn't make any sense. Who has reported there is going to be a 2nd NOA? I don't think even Rosebowl reported that. What y'all are missing is that the NCAA is not made up of brilliant people, much less reasonably bright legal minds. If you are bright and successful, you move on after a short stay working at the NCAA. Investigators are significantly underpaid and undervalued. There is no massive setup scheme by the NCAA to hammer Ole Miss. What's more likely is that Ole Miss is funneling payments to the folks camped out in Oxford. Nothing major will come of this.

And holy shit, I hope I'm wrong.

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Actually, Rosebowl said there were going to be 2 before the first one ever came out. I heard this the week before Christmas. He just never speculated on a date that the second one would come out.

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Originally Posted by RezDawg

NOA are not that bad after all? This whole 2nd NOA theory makes ZERO sense. Come on.

Just be pissed that Ole Miss and Hugh got away with murder to build their program. Now, they can play it semi-clean. We should have been doing the same thing.

We truly are a pathetic fanbase.

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Despite the chance that I might be agreeing with a troll here, I have to say this worries me as well. To anyone that doesn't have any type of inside knowledge of what is going on with these investigations, the whole notion of a 2nd letter, and the unprecedented-ness of it, just sounds like our side hedging their bets that the letter/investigation out there right now really is as the bears are characterizing it.

Do I smell bear shit?

Yes you do...

The inconsistency that I see is this: Bjork and company have claimed that the 5-10 football allegations in this first letter include Tunsil's issues. Why would those allegations be in a pre-2013 NOA and not in the upcoming post-2013 NOA?

I hope you guys are right about the damning second letter, especially if this new information is correct. Had some friends at work ask me last week how happy I was to see TSUN receive an NOA. I told them they haven't seen anything yet, just wait for round 2.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Despite the chance that I might be agreeing with a troll here, I have to say this worries me as well. To anyone that doesn't have any type of inside knowledge of what is going on with these investigations, the whole notion of a 2nd letter, and the unprecedented-ness of it, just sounds like our side hedging their bets that the letter/investigation out there right now really is as the bears are characterizing it.

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Research the UNC issue. The NCAA got notice that there were other issues and still gave UNC a slight pop while they continued to investigate.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Despite the chance that I might be agreeing with a troll here, I have to say this worries me as well. To anyone that doesn't have any type of inside knowledge of what is going on with these investigations, the whole notion of a 2nd letter, and the unprecedented-ness of it, just sounds like our side hedging their bets that the letter/investigation out there right now really is as the bears are characterizing it.

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The NCAA has done this before. With Tenn recently. As they were filing the NOA on Pearl they uncovered football violations. They decided to handle it seperately instead of combining the two. Although it was a clearer case of seperation.

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

Despite the chance that I might be agreeing with a troll here, I have to say this worries me as well. To anyone that doesn't have any type of inside knowledge of what is going on with these investigations, the whole notion of a 2nd letter, and the unprecedented-ness of it, just sounds like our side hedging their bets that the letter/investigation out there right now really is as the bears are characterizing it.

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I don't think so. I believe the second NOA is more recent allegations from basically a separate investigation. The first has more to do with older allegations whereas the second one focuses on allegations the Tunsil incident and other recent incidents uncovered, and I wonder if this whole restructuring of NCAA penalties has something to do with it, too.

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Originally Posted by RezDawg

NOA are not that bad after all? This whole 2nd NOA theory makes ZERO sense. Come on.

Just be pissed that Ole Miss and Hugh got away with murder to build their program. Now, they can play it semi-clean. We should have been doing the same thing.

We truly are a pathetic fanbase.

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I smell bear shit. Anyone else???

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Originally Posted by RezDawg

I don't think even Rosebowl reported that.

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Yes, he has.

ETA - Also, regarding the NOA that they have already received, he is saying that he expects around 12 of the 30 allegations to be football related.

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

I smell bear shit. Anyone else???

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Smells like roses from Hugh's ass to me.

I haven't heard the 13 number. I could see how he could say "up to 13 or so" but I anticipate 5-10 being football related in the first letter and only one of them being related to Tunsil under the current staff. The 2nd letter I would anticipate being completely football and all under the current staff. It's my opinion that the first one will be bad and the second one will be much, much worse. How anyone could construe this as "good news for the Bears" is beyond me. That's some Yancy level spinning there.

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg

The NYT is just one of many outlets reporting two investigations.

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NBC Sports as well

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...f-allegations/

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Originally Posted by JDog13

If you're reading this, you're the resistance.

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I am the resistance and looks like the portal at UNMs football stadium will soon be white/grey and neutralized.

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

I haven't heard the 13 number. I could see how he could say "up to 13 or so" but I anticipate 5-10 being football related in the first letter and only one of them being related to Tunsil under the current staff. The 2nd letter I would anticipate being completely football and all under the current staff. It's my opinion that the first one will be bad and the second one will be much, much worse. How anyone could construe this as "good news for the Bears" is beyond me. That's some Yancy level spinning there.

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There could possibly be more than 2. I personally know of 3 recent signees that other programs have turned in information to the NCAA regarding last week's class. There is no way possible the NCAA is able to look into this year's accusations to include in 2nd letter. These letters may just become the norm for them if they keep flipping the NCAA the bird.

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

There could possibly be more than 2. I personally know of 3 recent signees that other programs have turned in information to the NCAA regarding last week's class. There is no way possible the NCAA is able to look into this year's accusations to include in 2nd letter. These letters may just become the norm for them if they keep flipping the NCAA the bird.

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I don't know when the time table for "repeat offender" starts but I imagine it would be after probation is handed down. However, the potential for "pattern of willful violations" would seemingly be squarely in play with 2 NOA's. If they get popped for this year's class too, it would be the most epic failure in the history of college recruiting scandals.

Rezdogs shits gittin old

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg

The NYT is just one of many outlets reporting two investigations.

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As well as the AP....

So every major news outlet across the country is reporting this except the CL while confed nation continues to deny it? Laughable but it also has some type of creepy side to it as well. Tsun is a strange bunch.