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01-01-2016, 01:34 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

They had the NFL combine already? His stock is going to plummet after his 40 time. Bear runs like a TE and blocks like a TE. He even catches the ball like a TE. Unfortunately he is a WR not a TE. He doesn't however run like a WR or jump like a WR. He is a very skinny NFL TE.

He is a match-up nightmare in the slot for safeties and LB's. He will likely be a 3rd round pick and make lots of money next year instead of playing SEC football. From there- its on him to work on his craft
01-01-2016, 01:34 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

They had the NFL combine already? His stock is going to plummet after his 40 time. Bear runs like a TE and blocks like a TE. He even catches the ball like a TE. Unfortunately he is a WR not a TE. He doesn't however run like a WR or jump like a WR. He is a very skinny NFL TE.

If the combine (speed) is gonna kill bear, what would coming back do to change it?
01-01-2016, 01:38 PM
NCDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the combine (speed) is gonna kill bear, what would coming back do to change it?

Good point, probably not much.
01-01-2016, 01:39 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the combine (speed) is gonna kill bear, what would coming back do to change it?

exactly

And what 61 doesnt understand- is that these guys have been timed by various scouts already at practice during pro days and such. They have a good idea already of what these guys can do- thats why your better mock drafts are able to make projections on these guys.
01-01-2016, 01:44 PM
Dawg61

Mullen and MSU developed these guys. They would not have the option to go pro anywhere else just about. They need to understand this and pay it back to Mullen and MSU by staying their senior years. We finally get to the point of the pay off for signing 3* nobodies and taking the time and effort to develop them into NFL talents and they just peace out on us before paying back. **** that!! Bear Wilson you need to stay your senior year. You OWE it to Mullen and MSU. Auburn or Vanderbilt gonna have you good enough to leave your junior year? Absolutely no chance in hell.
01-01-2016, 01:46 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If the combine (speed) is gonna kill bear, what would coming back do to change it?

I think Bear needs to put on 20 lbs and have Mullen feature him as a WR/TE hybrid. Line him up all over the field. That is where Bear's future is at. He is already an NFL blocker.
01-01-2016, 01:48 PM
chef dixon

This is the nature of the beast. No need to take it personally and get upset about it. Excited to see who steps up next. We need Donald Gray to start getting more involved and have AJ Brown step in day 1.
01-01-2016, 01:50 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Mullen and MSU developed these guys. They would not have the option to go pro anywhere else just about. They need to understand this and pay it back to Mullen and MSU by staying their senior years. We finally get to the point of the pay off for signing 3* nobodies and taking the time and effort to develop them into NFL talents and they just peace out on us before paying back. **** that!! Bear Wilson you need to stay your senior year. You OWE it to Mullen and MSU. Auburn or Vanderbilt gonna have you good enough to leave your junior year? Absolutely no chance in hell.

Wow
01-01-2016, 01:53 PM
Bucky Dog

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Originally Posted by MafiaDawg

The NFL is not the place to "work on a few small things". His catch radius is so small when he doesn't use his hands. They will chew you up and spit you out with that. Small windows and bigger hits that knock the ball loose with body catches, especially lacking speed. He needs another college year. But oh well, ask j rob how the practice squad is. I wish him the best but sucks seeing stupid decisions made.

This exactly was the assessment and Mullen told him he would be a 4th rounder this year and another year and improvement on the above would get him to a second round lick or higher. Kids or not, they will be taken care of for another year and the money would be much greater.
With that said, I hope he improves fast and has a great career.
01-01-2016, 01:54 PM
SheltonChoked

I hate to see Bear leave, but to say it's "a little money" is being misleading. The NFL minimum is $420,000 for making the 53-man roster and $107,000 for the practice squad. If he can make that, great for him. Could he make more if he stays for a year? Maybe. But if he needs work, why not go and get paid to do it. Get coached every day. All year.

I'd love to keep him but having guys in the pros helps us.
01-01-2016, 01:55 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Wow

Nobody else in college football has Bear able to go pro after his junior year but Mullen.
01-01-2016, 01:57 PM
SheltonChoked

More than he would being a coach. Or any other job out of school.
01-01-2016, 01:58 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

This is the nature of the beast. No need to take it personally and get upset about it. Excited to see who steps up next. We need Donald Gray to start getting more involved and have AJ Brown step in day 1.

Im not taking it personally but I am upset about it. I was upset at JRob too. Without Mullen featuring these players in his offense they would have no shot in hell to leave early anywhere else. We can not afford to lose juniors when our entire recruiting strategy is to take the overlooked athletes and develop them.
01-01-2016, 02:00 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Im not taking it personally but I am upset about it. I was upset at JRob too. Without Mullen featuring these players in his offense they would have no shot in hell to leave early anywhere else. We can not afford to lose juniors when our entire recruiting strategy is to take the overlooked athletes and develop them.

This makes no sense.
01-01-2016, 02:01 PM
smootness

61, you ever heard of Kelvin Benjamin?
01-01-2016, 02:02 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by MafiaDawg

Did dak not get better? You don't think Bear could learn to use his hands to catch more in the offseason? That statement assumes that a 20 year old with 4 years of football experience ever has topped out. Sigh.

Sigh. It's easy to compare apples to oranges. That statement doesn't assume anything. I stated what I believe as fact due to the information at hand. In my opinion he has to work a lot harder.
01-01-2016, 02:04 PM
Dawg496

Seriously. Some of the worst fans in the NCAA.

Good luck Bear. Make your money. Thanks for coming to State.
01-01-2016, 02:06 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by smootness

61, you ever heard of Kelvin Benjamin?

Yea he ran a 4.61. You think Bear gonna beat that time?
01-01-2016, 02:06 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by MafiaDawg

While true, the difference between a 6th and 2nd round selection is a lot more than a few hundred thousand dollars. But yes it would take an additional year. It's a shortsighted decision.

Is he a 6th projection? Doubt it. Probably gonna be a 3rd. And his measurables and catching 60 more balls here ain't gonna change that. I hope he's higher drafted and makes millions.
01-01-2016, 02:08 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Dawg496

Seriously. Some of the worst fans in the NCAA.

Good luck Bear. Make your money. Thanks for coming to State.

Bear is peacing out when he finally gets the chance to be the man on our offense. Pay it back time and he says nah.

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