Manny Diaz and the 2015 defense...

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09-01-2015, 05:03 PM
DistrictDawg92

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

I wasn't speaking for you, genius. Perhaps you should consider having someone speak for you, though, because you're not doing a very good job of it yourself. It's okay to disagree, but you don't have to be a dick about it because you misunderstood something.

Perhaps you should give your bubba a rub to blow off some steam. You're fighting a pointless fight by yourself man. I get what you're saying, yes we should be cautiously optimistic, but we are coming off a 10 win season and returning a heisman candidate QB and our best WR corp in history, to go with a defense that will surprise everyone. We can beat EVERYONE on our schedule for once, how many chances have you had as an MSU football fan to go all in?
09-01-2015, 05:07 PM
ScoobaDawg

I think Manny is sitting there with this type of face... Saturday can't gt here soon enough. the NEXT saturday REALLLLLYYYYY cant get here soon enough.
It's time to Show last year wasnt a fluke and its time for Manny to show what we have and what HE HAS and that Texas will not define him..

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09-01-2015, 05:11 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg

I think Manny is sitting there with this type of face... Saturday can't gt here soon enough. the NEXT saturday REALLLLLYYYYY cant get here soon enough.
It's time to Show last year wasnt a fluke and its time for Manny to show what we have and what HE HAS and that Texas will not define him..

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Yup. And this will be him after the season when our D is top 3 in the SEC.
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09-01-2015, 05:36 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ball skills are something that you either have or you don't. He hasn't shown me that yet- as evidenced by 0 INT's and 6 passes defended last year, three of which were against Vanderbilt. I think he is a striker though. If it were me, I'd bulk him up and move him to OLB and start Peters, McLaurin, or Bryant.

If we insist on playing someone that isn't our best player- which has been a theme under Dan whether it's Perkins, Cherrington, or Love last year- at least Manny can cover him up somewhat and make him look serviceable.

You're wrong on this 1. Kivon will be our best safety & it won't be close. I have a lot of faith in Taveze's ball skills too but he only had 1 int last year.
09-01-2015, 06:12 PM
thunderclap

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

F&%K IT!!!! Say it loud & say it over & over again. Don't be timid & reserved & bashful. No other fan base is. Auburn is saying Muschamp is the greatest thing ever. A&M has Chavis on the Mt. Rushmore of DC's. Why can't Manny come in & be that good. Let's stop playing it safe & be wait & see. Let's beat our chest & have some confidence. We want respect you have to carry yourself with a confident, cocky attitude. Forget being the quiet & humble fanbase. Grab your nuts sometimes & let folks know.

F***ing A.
09-01-2015, 06:22 PM
RoverDog

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

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You're wrong on this 1. Kivon will be our best safety & it won't be close. I have a lot of faith in Taveze's ball skills too but he only had 1 int last year.

I've always liked Kivon, but you got me thinking he's going to be this years Preston Smith. God I hope he has that kind of a break out season.
09-01-2015, 07:16 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

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You're wrong on this 1. Kivon will be our best safety & it won't be close. I have a lot of faith in Taveze's ball skills too but he only had 1 int last year.

Cahoun also had 53 tackles and 9 passes defended. Coman playing a position that should have more tackles than a corner only had 34 to go with 6 passes defended-half of those against Vanderbilt.

I'm sure you're going to gloat when Coman doesn't suck as bad as he did last year- which again will be more a product of Manny scheming to cover him up as opposed to him suddenly being a lot better. We'll see who the NFL scouts agree with in two years.

BTW- I heard the same crap from people about Clausell. And guess what? He was never any more than average.

Having seen the two- Peters is better than Coman right now. But that doesn't mean much seeing as how we are just now starting Chris Jones and Bear Wilson sat for most of his freshman year.
09-01-2015, 07:18 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by RoverDog

I've always liked Kivon, but you got me thinking he's going to be this years Preston Smith. God I hope he has that kind of a break out season.

Ryan Brown is this years Preston Smith. Kivon Coman is this years Blaine Clausell.

But if he is right I'm sure he will be very happy to let everyone know.
09-01-2015, 07:30 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ryan Brown is this years Preston Smith. Kivon Coman is this years Blaine Clausell.

But if he is right I'm sure he will be very happy to let everyone know.

To his credit, IYOK hasn't been wrong on much. I'm gonna keep holding his opinions in high esteem.
09-01-2015, 07:32 PM
HoopsDawg

Coman looks great. I would start McLaurin or Bryant at the other spot, but the coaches love Market. Absolutely love him.
09-01-2015, 07:33 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

To his credit, IYOK hasn't been wrong on much. I'm gonna keep holding his opinions in high esteem.

he brings outstanding info. Like me- not always correct, but good solid info. He is a valued member of the board
09-01-2015, 07:34 PM
MabenMaroon

Just the fact that Manny is emphasizing tackling skills since he returned has had me squeezing my own nuts so hard and steady that they are permanently black and blue and would fall off if I were to turn loose. A half a dozen ( or less ) missed tackles last year was all the stood between us and a 12-0 regular season.
Hell yes!!! We should be confident, but I am also digging on the "walking and talking quietly but carrying an incredibly 17** large whooping ass stick" demeanor that those around the football staff and circle have been taking. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS ABOUT TO TAKE THE FIELD THIS SEASON !!! AND THAT'S THE FACTS JACK!!!
09-01-2015, 07:45 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ryan Brown is this years Preston Smith. Kivon Coman is this years Blaine Clausell.

But if he is right I'm sure he will be very happy to let everyone know.

We'll agree to disagree & I don't think I've been the 1 to come on here & say how right I am or pat myself on the back. I just disagree with your opinion of Kivon & so does anyone who's seen him this spring, summer, & fall. Kivon is a big time athlete too. Check the Iron Dawg board his name is on there on almost every category. He's put that athleticism with the hard work & film work & you'll see the results this fall.
09-01-2015, 07:46 PM
BossDawg

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

we did lose defensive talent that will be difficult to replace. All those 1Bs you're referring to were a noticeable dropoff in talent and production from the 1As (for the most part).

It was noticeable last year, sure. But those 1Bs from last year will have all that experience plus an extra year of development under their belt for this year. There's a good chance they have refined their skills to be just as good or better than the 1As of last season.
09-01-2015, 07:50 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

But if he is right I'm sure he will be very happy to let everyone know.

????

I don't think that's been his MO
09-01-2015, 07:54 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by BossDawg

It was noticeable last year, sure. But those 1Bs from last year will have all that experience plus an extra year of development under their belt for this year. There's a good chance they have refined their skills to be just as good or better than the 1As of last season.

My only concerns this year on D are DT depth and lack of an elite pass rusher off the edge. We are solid everywhere else including safety.
09-01-2015, 07:59 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

My only concerns this year on D are DT depth and lack of an elite pass rusher off the edge. We are solid everywhere else including safety.

Yea I don't think we have that 1 guy who will get 10 sacks but I think our DE 2 deep will be more productive as a group than last years.
09-01-2015, 08:12 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

I don't think that's been his MO

No Shit. Todd must be feeling inadequate for some reason.
09-01-2015, 08:15 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Yea I don't think we have that 1 guy who will get 10 sacks but I think our DE 2 deep will be more productive as a group than last years.

Hope so. Preston Smith is tough to replace. Ryan Brown is not really a pass rusher. AJ Jefferson is an effort guy. Calvin can do both but is more of a run stopper and has to adjust to SEC ball. Coleman can be that X-factor...maybe.
09-01-2015, 08:18 PM
Schultzy

It's moody Todd tonight, someone must've defended Polk in an argument recently.

Coman gon' dominate.

I'm so glad Collins' ass is gone and that Fla gig is gonna fail. Manny's back and the stars are aligning, West Champs then we have as good a chance as anybody.

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