You realize this was done on purpose right? Gray wanted the money to keep coming- and that wasnt happening under RayQuote:
Originally Posted by FreeBoosie
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You realize this was done on purpose right? Gray wanted the money to keep coming- and that wasnt happening under RayQuote:
Originally Posted by FreeBoosie
Here it isQuote:
Originally Posted by I seen it dawg
feel free to quote me if you like- I gave you 3 areas where Ray is head and shoulders above Stands. Only the Villiage Idiot would argue those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demdawgs
We'll see other areas to judge much more clearly this winter
Wayne Brady makes Bryant Gumble look like Malcom X.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeBoosie
This is probably the worst post I have read on this board since it was created...
Stansbury is THE ONLY REASON we are where we are as a basketball program right now. If you want to change the culture of a lazy, heartless, unmotivated basketball program, you sure as hell don't do that by hiring his assistant. As for Kenny Payne... We don't really have to go back over this do we...
Our freshman guard who has never played point in his life should average 15-20 pts/game???
Our other freshman guard who had to play about 37 minutes a game didnt finish strong enough at the rim???
We had a deep front court???
WTF are you talking about!?!?
Who cares what kind of suits he wears? He has instilled discipline into a program that had become the laughing stock of college basketball under stansburys watch. Maybe the reason we hired him was because no other sensible coach wanted to take over the dumpster fire that stansbury left... Did you ever think of that?
Les Miles called this a damn strong 1st postQuote:
Originally Posted by CapitolCityDawg
You could have saved everyone alot of reading and just boiled your post down to the three sentences above. When it comes down to it, you're just being a baby about things that have nothing to do with Ray's perfomance or potential. Your complaints are based on fashion, twitter, and your own failure to understand analogies.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeBoosie
I was not quoting you. A poster said he was a better coach than Stans and he did not break it down to strengths and weaknesses he just said overall he was better. I begged, pleaded, for someone to tell me he was kidding and you responded that twice that he wasn't. By doing that you agreed he was a better coach and to that I say lolzQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Just curious, who are you arguing with?Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitolCityDawg
It's hard to respond to your post with a dignified response, but I will try. For starters, longtime reader, first time poster, welcome. Glad to have you out of the shadows. Did Stands give negative shits by the end. Definitely. Was it time to go? Yes. The choices. Dont act like this was a program fresh off the death penalty. It was still known enough to hire someone better than Rick Ray. Joe Dooley, the long time assistant at Kansas, was VERY VERY interested in the job. He made this known, but did Scott "White-Out" Stricklin contact him? No. Now he's the head coach at FGCU, who coincidentally, is coming to Starkville fresh off of a Sweet 16 birth. Since we were obviously reaching for anybody with a smart phone, why not give Wayne Brent a try? He is very well known around the Jackson basketball scene, has coached and trained many great players, and would have given us a direct pipeline to whoever we wanted out of that area. But no, lets get the guy who built a fence around Montgomery, Alabama. Did I ever say Craig Sword would play point guard, No. He average 10.5 points last year, so I dont think with Rick Ray's rigorous work outs a 5 point bump is too much to ask. What does the amount of minutes Fred Thomas (Who actually averaged 28 minutes, nice try though), have to do with his ability to drive to the lane? Okay though. I know we have a deep front court, which is why I want them to be able to perform well against Johnny O'Bryant, Jarnell Stokes, Patric Young, and the dream team Kentucky has compiled. The reason I went off about his personal appearance is because its embarrassing he cant find a good median between his Starter brand warm ups and his Geralds House of Fashion olive colored suit. Whether you like it or not, a well dressed coach is a well respected coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitolCityDawg
That was not a strong first post. That was a first post with wrong stats, childish outbursts, and a total troll demeanor. I think your better suited to keep reading bud.
HaymakerQuote:
Originally Posted by FreeBoosie
What sport is this again?
The one where a 45 point loss to Vanderbilt is swept under the rug because of the "hustle points"Quote:
Originally Posted by The Croom Diaries
I'd like to get this thread back on track, because I think it is an interesting discussion.
My serious questions to FreeBoosie, DemDawgs, and Raytoraid is this: What happened ON THE COURT last year that makes you think Rick Ray isn't capable of being our coach? If Rick Ray didn't meet your expectations.... what were those expectations? Did he meet ANY of the expectations you have for an MSU coach?
Way to double down on the full retard. Epic FAIL.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeBoosie
I don't think the guy that refuses to acknowledge the job that Ray has done thus far and whose seemingly biggest complaint is that his suits aren't sharp enough, is in any position to call somebody out for "childish posts and troll demeanor"... Especially when the general consensus is that most here don't agree with your logic.
Sorry I don't have time to look up official stats to support my argument, but the point I was trying to convey is that if you didn't see a more driven and motivated team (with far inferior talent) last season, then you were too busy whining about a washed up coach whose only play was "motion" to actually support our program...
Ray has done nothing to make me (or anyone else for that matter) not support our new style of play, so why would you refuse to give him your support? I'm sure you can compile a long list of reasons why you don't like him but I'll just chalk it up to mostly ignorance.
And I'm not your "bud"
We certainly had more coaching going on with our team last season than we had in a long time- that's for sure
I'm not kidding at all. And one, just ONE, yr of seeing how different our basketball program is now versus the Stains (I'm re instituting Stains, tough shit for some) program has reaffirmed that our coach is better. Now. Stains was a good recruiter as an assistant but a shitty head coach. No need in listing all the reasons why you may think Stains was great because I have as many if not more reasons why he sucked ass so the debate is probably useless. I'm sure he was a nice guy and its nothing personal but he was shitty as a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasDawg
Show it to me... If you can...Quote:
Originally Posted by Demdawgs
I didn't realize that "I seen it dawg" and "coach34" were the same person?**Quote:
Originally Posted by Raytoraid83