20 rounds in the books

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Originally Posted by Smitty

Everyone on the Toddlist™ will contribute hit .270 at least 3 HR and steal 5-10 bases on the ToddStats™

Luke Alexander better be a damn stud is all I'm saying. 5 years of hype and how he will start on day 1. Is there a reason we aren't seeing him looked at by the pros? Adam Frazier type?

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He has told MLB he is going to MSU. I'll go ahead and say that he the question is going to be if he can hit as a freshman. He may very well hit .200-220 as a freshman, but defensively he is better than Holland or Gridley right now. He has more power than Frazier- who hit .220 as a freshman for whatever it's worth. If Luke hits better than .240, he will start over Holland unless Holland picks it up.

Now, I can already tell that when he doesn't hit .650 with a BABIP of .750 and an OBP of .830 and a 1.256 SLG% as a freshman you are going to bitch about him. By the time he leaves MSU, he will be a .300 type hitter. If he's better than Frazier, it wouldn't shock me at all.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

There is no one, zero, zilch that is eligible for draft in our program right now with draftable tools. Nobody.

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The talent in our upperclass was as bad this year as I've ever seen. When you look back at the 2012 recruiting class, we were doomed to have a terrible 2015 season.

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Originally Posted by RocketCityDawg

.320 as a Senior and 6 HR's over his career does not sound very impressive to me.

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I think he had more than six because he hit three this year and four last year. He was also the starting catcher for Team USA this year as well. Baseball in Miami is a LOT better than it is here as well.

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

If you go back and look at the stats from their careers, the top 5 High School hitters Cohen has signed:

CT Bradford
Hunter Renfroe
Cody Brown
Adam Frazier
Wes Rea

And the sad thing is, Frazier and Renfroe weren't the bell cows of their classes. Those were Bradford (whom we only got one or two good years out of) and Daryl Norris. Now I do believe Humphries and Collins will be in this category. And I also believe Cole Gordon could be to, if Thompson allows Cohen to use him as a hitter. I saw him in the Fall, and he was by far the best hitter on the field at those scrimmages.


Also, Delvin Zinn just got drafted before Hughes or Mangum. Guess they must really suck huh? ***

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Luke Reynolds had really good high school stats as well- better than Humphreys actually.

Delvin Zinn = Demarcus Henderson 2.0. Demarcus was also drafted by the Astros out of high school. Zinn never hit even close to .400 in his career and didn't even make the public school All-Star Game.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think he had more than six because he hit three this year and four last year. He was also the starting catcher for Team USA this year as well. Baseball in Miami is a LOT better than it is here as well.

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Would love to see him come here and hit the ground running as a true freshman from Miami baseball like Raffy did. Heck, if he was just half as good he would be an impact for us.

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Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero

The talent in our upperclass was as bad this year as I've ever seen. When you look back at the 2012 recruiting class, we were doomed to have a terrible 2015 season.

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Yep. TWO pitchers recruited in that class- and one was a walk-on. The other went down with Tommy John. Pirtle and Robson have been the highlights out of that group.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Would love to see him come here and hit the ground running as a true freshman from Miami baseball like Raffy did. Heck, if he was just half as good he would be an impact for us.

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I would too- but the reality is starting a freshman catcher is kind of like starting a freshman at QB. He'll learn behind Collins and Lovelady and then be ready to take over as a sophomore. That said, growing up with a MLB catcher in his house will give him an edge and that makes it more likely that he can make it and start as a freshman.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think he had more than six because he hit three this year and four last year. He was also the starting catcher for Team USA this year as well. Baseball in Miami is a LOT better than it is here as well.

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This is what some people aren't realizing. Miami high school baseball is at least as high caliber as MS JUCO baseball, if not better.

I don't think Marrero will ever hit 5 HRs in a year at MSU, but he will hit a bunch of doubles with his line drive swing. You can tell he is very sound and advanced for his age at the plate and behind the dish- his dad has taught him well. This makes me think he can step in a play a role for us next year.

Luke Alexander has something right now our team needs, he is a winner. Winning at Belmont is like winning in the SEC if you are Jackson State. When I played at Belmont, the coach was the fb Oline coach.

The head coach now, I don't think he even played above little League and he wasn't good then.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Delvin Zinn = Demarcus Henderson 2.0. Demarcus was also drafted by the Astros out of high school. Zinn never hit even close to .400 in his career and didn't even make the public school All-Star Game.

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So this means he will be a regular in the lineup the next 4 years?**

I would have taken Demarcus Henderson last year. He was pretty clutch several times on the way to the CWS. We didn't have anyone that was clutch at all.

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Originally Posted by bulldogcountry1

So this means he will be a regular in the lineup the next 4 years?**

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I'm glad that he was drafted by the Cubs. Hopefully he will sign with them and then we can go get a corner INF/OF player. Might end up being a good break for us.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Luke Alexander has something right now our team needs, he is a winner. Winning at Belmont is like winning in the SEC if you are Jackson State. When I played at Belmont, the coach was the fb Oline coach.

The head coach now, I don't think he even played above little League and he wasn't good then.

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That's why I like him so much. Will he win the triple crown at MSU? I doubt it. But players like him win and push others. There are several players in this class that are like that as well. Normally, those are the types of people that have success in baseball.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm glad that he was drafted by the Cubs. Hopefully he will sign with them and then we can go get a corner INF/OF player. Might end up being a good break for us.

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We are already over the limit. He's not getting squat for a scholarship and who in the hell are we going to get in June? You are starting to go off the deep end.

I'd give us a higher grade than a B-
It's very likely that several of these kids turned down really good offers.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

We are already over the limit. He's not getting squat for a scholarship and who in the hell are we going to get in June? You are starting to go off the deep end.

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Luke Craig from Morton.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Luke Craig from Morton.

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a- he can walk on, we don't have any scholarship money left. And b- if he's still on the board and not a single d-1 school wants him, then there's a reason. I'll side with them on this. And c- Luke Craig from Morton isn't going to solve a single problem next year I'm pretty sure of that.

Some of y'all are used to the education system just gives away free grades.

It is a C+ because we lost what would have immediately gotten us better in the power department in Riley and Pickett.

Remember Woodruff was supposed to be THE GUY coming in. McCord too. Hudson too. It's great we got some "the guys" coming in but it don't mean shit until it happens. I'm tired of waiting until year 3 for anything to come about.

The one thing that would have meant something is Riley and slightly lesser extent Pickett. Everything else is hype.

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Originally Posted by Smitty

Some of y'all are used to the education system just gives away free grades.

It is a C+ because we lost what would have immediately gotten us better in the power department in Riley and Pickett.

Remember Woodruff was supposed to be THE GUY coming in. McCord too. Hudson too. It's great we got some "the guys" coming in but it don't mean shit until it happens. I'm tired of waiting until year 3 for anything to come about.

The one thing that would have meant something is Riley and slightly lesser extent Pickett. Everything else is hype.

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While I agree the power dept wasn't helped much, hopefully we have some guys that can hit. And, one of the points I agree w you on is we need more punch out guys on the mound and we got them. This isn't a finesse pitching class. So with that said c+ is way low if the pitchers halfway pan out. Our pitching sucked this year. The stats bear it out, we are a regional team of we half ass pitch. Sorry it's the truth. And no, we weren't good offensively, but they were better in league games than our pitchers.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

a- he can walk on, we don't have any scholarship money left. And b- if he's still on the board and not a single d-1 school wants him, then there's a reason. I'll side with them on this. And c- Luke Craig from Morton isn't going to solve a single problem next year I'm pretty sure of that.

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A) I bet he would take Delvin Zinn's 25% or whatever he got.

B) The reason is because he didn't play on an elite summer league team to get noticed. I'm starting to see this happen more and more. It happened to Hunter Renfroe. It happened to Luke Reynolds who had to go to JUCO despite hitting over .600 with 8 home runs.

C) I don't think Craig would solve any problems next year either, but baseball recruiting much like football recruiting isn't so much about next year as it is three years from now. The guy is a legit 6'2", made the All-State baseball team (Zinn didn't) and Craig can play first base or third base. And he put up these numbers- which are similar to Reynolds in the same league. Is he an Austin Riley type talent? No. But unlike Riley, he would be around here in a couple of years.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/luke...ball-stats.htm

Burroughs would have found this kid, I guarantee you of that.