Athlon's SEC predictions are out

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Originally Posted by cheat2win

. ARK may be down but to expect us to win that game is expecting us to do something we never have. Hopefully Coach34 is right here, but I am not as optimistic. Realistically I think we go 6-6 wins vs (Alcorn State, Auburn, Troy, Bowling Green, UK, Ole Miss) and spending New Years in Memphis for the Liberty Bowl

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UPig is going to be the easiest game out of them, Auburn, and OM imo

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Originally Posted by Coach 57

I don't want you guys thinking I think Tyler is a bad QB. Actually I think Tyler can be our first legit pro prospect QB. But we (our coaching staff) aren't doing him any favors by the way we used him last year. He is too good for no better than the way we used him.

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This has always been my problem with Russell. He doesnt fit what we are trying to do. Had he played for Jacckie or even Crooms-then he would have been outstanding. We are going to attempt to make the changes to help him this year- I'm curious to see how this shit turns out

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Originally Posted by cheat2win

OK State sets the tone this year obviously

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I disagree completely.

I think we probably will lose the OK State game, but then we'll come back and beat Alcorn and then beat Auburn on the road to get back on track. We are going to end that streak in Little Rock this year, no doubt in my mind. We're going to beat Ole Miss too. Then add the other 3 (Troy, BG, UK) and we've got 7 wins right there.

I'm going out on a limb and predicting us to beat one of LSU/Alabama. That's our 8 wins. Maybe we can get lucky with the Pokes and/or possibly pull one out vs. Carolina or aTm, but I don't see it, especially with the latter two.

Dak LAST year was better than Relf was in 11' and possibly 10' too. Here's why: He's at least (last yr as a rFr) was at least. 3ths faster. He is FAR more accurate than Relf (don't forget the 09' Egg Bowl when he was throwing to Wilder and "accidentally" threw it to Bumphis for a TD). Dak has had (as of last yr) 2 seasons under Mullen. Relf had 2 actual seasons under Mullen. So you say that Relf was better in 2 yrs under Mullen than Dak was because he started over a freshman Tyler? Are you serious? Relf was so inconsistent that in the Houston Dan told Tyler to warm up and get ready to go in. Now we are talking about a TRUE freshman Tyler. And you want to argue THAT? Man that's laughable.

C34 is dead on. In his assessment of why we even went after Tyler. Do you want to know why he did? Dab wanted to set a tone with keeping top Mississippi kids here. Losing a 4 star prospect to S.C was NOT going to look good, much less a kid that was previously committed here under a terrible regime. But perhaps Tyler was right with his initial response. C34 is right, under Croom Tyler would've been perfect! He is a pro set QB in all his natural skill sets. One day we as State fans are going to see that in a preseason NFL game when he is getting after it trying to be earn his role as a backup. He is the best talent at QB we have ever had. I'm not denying that. But either Dan doesn't know how to implement Tyler's "game" to our scheme. Or he does. We'll see this year. No doubt. But I'm telling you guys this, don't judge Dan by this season alone. His philosophy works WITH the right talent taking the snaps is all I'm saying.


Tyler in the "run & shoot" style offense would be very good. I have discussed this extensively on the pack before. The key to this system is based on great route runners, good hands but more importantly ROUTE COMBINATIONS. The creator of this philosophy is (most popular) is June Jones.

You made a good recovery in the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs after the 1st one was really shitty.

I just have a feeling we are going to be more effective this year because the defense will get more stops and as a result our offense will start with better field position. I also think our punt return team will score and put us in a short field.

I don't like the idea of Tyler under center but if the result is that he understands he has to develop a quicker release and hit the tight end more often, then maybe we'll see a benefit.

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Originally Posted by Coach 57

Coaches agree with WHAT? You said that Relf in his Jr & Sr year was better than Dak is now? How are the coaches agreeing with you? Is Relf still on the team? The fact is that Tyler IS a good QB. No doubt about that. IF (big IF) he's used correctly. Let me clarify before I become the villan here (might very too late Lol). If Dan keeps using Tyler as he was used in Meridian or in the spread option game, Dak is the better option. Period! But if Dan utilizes him properly there is NO DOUBT Tyler is the better option to win games. I don't want you guys thinking I think Tyler is a bad QB. Actually I think Tyler can be our first legit pro prospect QB. But we (our coaching staff) aren't doing him any favors by the way we used him last year. He is too good for no better than the way we used him.

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This is my thoughts

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Originally Posted by Coach 57

Dak LAST year was better than Relf was in 11' and possibly 10' too. Here's why: He's at least (last yr as a rFr) was at least. 3ths faster. He is FAR more accurate than Relf (don't forget the 09' Egg Bowl when he was throwing to Wilder and "accidentally" threw it to Bumphis for a TD). Dak has had (as of last yr) 2 seasons under Mullen. Relf had 2 actual seasons under Mullen. So you say that Relf was better in 2 yrs under Mullen than Dak was because he started over a freshman Tyler? Are you serious? Relf was so inconsistent that in the Houston Dan told Tyler to warm up and get ready to go in. Now we are talking about a TRUE freshman Tyler. And you want to argue THAT? Man that's laughable.

C34 is dead on. In his assessment of why we even went after Tyler. Do you want to know why he did? Dab wanted to set a tone with keeping top Mississippi kids here. Losing a 4 star prospect to S.C was NOT going to look good, much less a kid that was previously committed here under a terrible regime. But perhaps Tyler was right with his initial response. C34 is right, under Croom Tyler would've been perfect! He is a pro set QB in all his natural skill sets. One day we as State fans are going to see that in a preseason NFL game when he is getting after it trying to be earn his role as a backup. He is the best talent at QB we have ever had. I'm not denying that. But either Dan doesn't know how to implement Tyler's "game" to our scheme. Or he does. We'll see this year. No doubt. But I'm telling you guys this, don't judge Dan by this season alone. His philosophy works WITH the right talent taking the snaps is all I'm saying.


Tyler in the "run & shoot" style offense would be very good. I have discussed this extensively on the pack before. The key to this system is based on great route runners, good hands but more importantly ROUTE COMBINATIONS. The creator of this philosophy is (most popular) is June Jones.

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Actually, it was Tyson Lee that Dan was about to pull and the pass play to Bumphis was Relf's sophomore year- not his junior or senior year.

I'm not saying that Dak isn't more talented and better coached out of high school than Relf. What I AM saying is that Relf knew more of the offense and mastered more of it as a junior and a senior than Dak did last year. Dak had a package and that was what he focused on as a freshman. If Dak started for us, that would have been what we had to focus on as an offense as a freshman and it would have made us much more predictable as an offense and thus easier too defend and stop. Now, I know that would have made you happy because it would have been read option all day long, but that would not have made us better as an offense. It just would have made you happier because that's what you want to see.