Yeah, we all know all of that. Doesn't change anything I said. Croom means absolutely nothing to us anymore, we are #1 in the country, and he still supports and cheers for us. Takes a pretty miserable person to take that scenario and be incensed.
Yeah, we all know all of that. Doesn't change anything I said. Croom means absolutely nothing to us anymore, we are #1 in the country, and he still supports and cheers for us. Takes a pretty miserable person to take that scenario and be incensed.
Oh you mean the class he showed when he lied to Bobo and Littlejohn about them having a scholarship.
The class he showed on the after game call in show when he told a fan and all MSU alumni that he didn't care what we thought about his offense that was always in the bottom ten.
The class he showed on national TV at the Bama game when he shouted F**k you into the camera.
The class he showed by kicking Sherrills guys off for any violation while keeping his own guys who failed multiple drug tests.
Okay back to a few guys talking up a PR stunt.
There was a player (receiver) who was on an NFL roster and scout squad for a while but couldn't get on the field at MSU.
The truth is difficult. We can debate whether or not it should be expressed, but the comments concerning Croom are true. Good man? Sure. Could a more adequate coach have cleaned up the program? Of course. He took on the job and was paid to clean it up and win. He failed on the second part.
I've always wished him well,..but damn that man was stubborn.
We had to pay that moron nearly $5MM to stop being our coach. He better root for our ass
And nothing you have said is un-true.
Yep, apparently Croom's "ethical standards" including maintaining a "Gulf Coast Offense" led by his buddy Woody that finished BELOW 100 in total offense for 5 STRAIGHT YEARS. I like Croom as a person (certainly not as a coach) but the way he martyrs himself over his dismissal here is pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Fillmore
Byrne told Crooms he was going to switch to the Spread offense and hire a new OC to run that offense- or he could resign. Crooms chose to resign.
Thank god he resigned over that
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Originally Posted by dawgoneyall
I keep hearing Croom was a good/great man. Could someone please point out the great things he`s done. Charities, stories of how affected lives in a positive way etc.. Maybe the way he was hired and his shenanigans while masquerading as a head coach just pissed me off so bad I wasn`t watching closely enough.
Yep.
And Threadgill could not get on the field also. Fastest player on the team. Missed a pass and he was done. Of course he was the only MSU receiver to miss a pass.*******
Let me say this. I was a huge croom supporter and even had hope going into 08 that he was going to get it done. Then we took a miserable giant leap backwards. What he was preaching wasn't working. He was being hard headed and it was hurting mine and yours university and football team. He had to go. I wasn't mad at him, it just didn't work out. I really hated it too, because, I as much as anyone wanted him to succeed. I didn't hate him though and I still don't but I'm not going to give him credit where none is due. And he is now trying to take at least some partial credit for where we are now. That Is complete and utter garbage. Say you're proud to see the dawgs winning. Say you'll always be a bulldog. Don't say you are the reason we are winning. That's bull
He didn't say he's the reason we're winning. He said he would like to think what they did helped begin the process we see being fulfilled now, as probably anyone in his situation would. Would you like him to say, 'I was terrible, Mullen had to win despite me'? An extremely large majority of people don't think that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
And let's set the record straight, the only reason we had a good season in '07 was because the defense and special teams scored probably half our points on the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
I realize he's not saying that he is solely responsible. I shouldn't have characterized it that way. I'd prefer he not say anything at all that remotely asserts some type of responsibility for our success.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Hooray that Crxxm cheers for us. But if he is going to take credit for laying the foundation it would only undermine his claim to speak ill of the program. The more success we have the better Crxxm looks if he can get anyone to buy the line he is selling.
If anyone here wants to pay me $8.1M over the next five years, they can fire my butt and I promise that I won't call them unethical.
I know archie sims. Croom and "character / man of word" should never be uttered in the same sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcat91
I like sly but he is a huge hypocrite.
I view Sly like I view Stansbury. There was good and bad. Just let it go and appreciate the good.
NEWS FLASH: We are ****ing #1 in the country. None of you are allowed to feel angry about anything.
Riddle me this... What if I told you that if you could endure the worst years in MSU history that your reward would be being #1 in the country a handful of years later?
Every damn one of you felt MSU ought to be able to bowl more often than not and once in a blue moon make a run in Atlanta. Who among you had #1 in mind. NOBODY!
Pretty much my thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlabLoser