How long did that take to recover from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
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How long did that take to recover from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
the most common way to attack a 1-3-1 is to start by havig 2 guards work either side of the defender at the top of the key. Almost every offense uses that against a 1-3-1. Ray doesn't. Maybe he thinks we match up better otherwise, and that's a plausible explanation given out lack of shooting ability, but I think everyone can admit what we were doing did not work.
This should be the year Ray has enough players to field a full team, yes or no.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Yep, he did. In his 5th year he had a winning record. In his 6th he went 5-11 in the big 12. Nice example to completely, disprove your point you've been making forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
Where has anyone said that we can't judge Ray based on results this year? Time for the rubber to meet the road for sure...
Bottom line is the zone becomes easy if you've got guys that can create and shoot 3's. Especially when you've got 4's and 5's that can exploit the matchups inside and force the to cheat back for double teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
last year, the 1-3-1 was extended because we played much of the time without a backup 5 on the roster or the floor. When there's no 5 that can beat a single or double team, you can cheat out against it and take away the setup threes.
Yeah, this has been pretty confusing to me. I've noticed several of us have been congratulated lately for saying this as if we've come around from a more radical viewpoint, but I can't think of a single pro-patience poster who's ever said otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Yeah -- I think that's the foothold of the radical viewpoint. It has to take other's opinions out of context and try to skew what those opinions actually are in order to try to justify their own outlandish ones. Hence the constant "pro-Ray" propaganda being pushed by those that are making basketball indiscussable -- when no outlandish "pro-Ray" position actually exists as a ying to their "anti-Ray" yang. Everyone someone asks them to link the posts projecting this stance, they just ignore the question and keep chugging along.Quote:
Originally Posted by thf24
Exactly- there's not a swinging dick that wears maroon that doesn't expect more out of Ray this season and we better get it or he will start catching shit from those of us that saw the situation realistically
Quit being a jackass. The question asked was name a coach that stepped into a worse situation. I did. Baylor had crippling sanctions placed on them including not being allowed to play half a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Mans what is hilarious to all of us is that a murder within the basketball program is literally the only worse situation you can come up with. That should tell you something. It probably won't- but it shouldQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Haha...I thought the same exact thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
In my opinion Tennessee right now is just as bad as MSU 2012. Chime in on a Sweet16 though. What's hilarious to me is y'all keep saying how tough a job it is for Ray so people will feel sorry for him and lower his bar so low dead people 6 feet under would be above it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Ok- I have to ask this so I can laugh at the answer- how in the hell is Tenn 2014 as bad as State was in 2012?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
and you don't even have to explain the "dumpster fire" vs Sweet 16 part- because no moron can duped into believing that. So start after that please
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Originally Posted by Dawg61
If you would get your head out of Rick Stansbury's ass for a second you could see that the train wreck of a program did nothing but embarrass the university and fans the last couple of years. He personally is responsible for the sharks that took his legs off during those two seasons and he certainly needed to move on to another job because he accomplished NOTHING with all the talent he had. Stop bashing Ray because you don't like what he looks like. That's been a craw in your crotch ever since the man was hired. Get over it you bumbling old man.
For a while, 61 thought I just picked on him. I've been intentionally quiet in basketball threads the last few weeks, but he somehow STILL is at odds with everyone in every thread. Strange**
For the seven billionth time I wanted Stansbury gone too. What I don't want is to be lied to and to have the expectations lowered so easily that anyone can meet them. I don't dislike Ray so you can shove your allegations of racism or whatever you were implying straight up your ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg
Is that your way of trying to have a conversation with me about it? Try better if you actually want to talk about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Tennessee right now is only as bad us 2012 if you take the two situations at face value an outsider's perspective. Likely only a few people know the true extent of the state of our program internally in spring/summer of 2012 (myself definitely not included), but if the rumors are even halfway accurate, Ray had it significantly worse than Tyndall does now. All Tennessee was really left with from a perception standpoint was a bad taste from the way the boosters supposedly treated Martin. No need to rehash what was going on with us, but suffice it to say we were far more toxic than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I wish one thread about what's going on in basketball (new player got in) would stay on that topic instead of this bullshit. Go make a rick ray thread and talk. Leave that shit somewhere else. It's unbearable