Does anyone really think Lebby will still be our coach in 2027?

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Everyone here, look at this, this is why we suck all the way around. From $$$ to tickets to asses in seats, entitled people like this who actually think that their opinion matter are killing us. People live in a fantasy bubble and are separated from reality only thinking about what they perceive as how it is. We are divided and entirely too ignorant to ever get it together and actually do something in this current iteration of college football. No one, not on person that matters cares what your top 15 list is.

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This post really reads like ChatGPT gobbledygook. Do better.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Lebby literally has 1 bright spot in his entire 23-game career, and as awesome as it was in the moment, he got pretty luck that Arizona State blew the coverage.

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Im sure you were telling everyone around you how bad of a play caller he is when we were leading either UT games

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Im sure you were telling everyone around you how bad of a play caller he is when we were leading either UT games

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I mean, yeah, he seemed like he was proving me wrong for a little while in both games, and then choked them both away. I really wish he had gotten it done.

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Im sure you were telling everyone around you how bad of a play caller he is when we were leading either UT games

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You know he lost both, right?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

^^^ this!!!! How the hell you gonna get people to sacrifice for the program when you have a loser HC?

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Thats my point. Hes working with nothing and we expect the wins to come before the talent. Makes no sense

We’ll do it with the next coach too. He wont get a budget, lose and we’ll argue on this board again. Rinse repeat

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

TSUN made a push when it was evident they had a winner. It?s tough to get people to write million dollar checks when you don?t believe in the guy leading the team

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We have to many that are waiting to believe. Thing is, believing is easy knowing is hard. That?s the issue. They have people who bought in because they know it is the best thing to do for the university. We never have understood that fact. We wait to believe as they know what to do.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This post really reads like ChatGPT gobbledygook. Do better.

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Truth sux doesn?t it.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

We have to many that are waiting to believe. Thing is, believing is easy knowing is hard. That?s the issue. They have people who bought in because they know it is the best thing to do for the university. We never have understood that fact. We wait to believe as they know what to do.

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

If you arent going to watch the Egg Bowl you are at best a fair weather fan and I dont see why Lebby needs to cater to that demo

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3 years of demoralizing results with no sign of things getting better. Why waste 4 hours of my day off to watch us get embarrassed by our rivals?

I appreciate your optimism but Lebby has brought this on himself.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

We have to many that are waiting to believe. Thing is, believing is easy knowing is hard. That?s the issue. They have people who bought in because they know it is the best thing to do for the university. We never have understood that fact. We wait to believe as they know what to do.

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We are reactive and they are proactive. Everything from the AD down to the $5 fan. They are also in lockstep with messaging. We are not. We have too many of the $5 fans that think their opinion matters. They understand that you have to pay to play.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We are reactive and they are proactive. Everything from the AD down to the $5 fan. They are also in lockstep with messaging. We are not. We have too many of the $5 fans that think their opinion matters. They understand that you have to pay to play.

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Amen to that. Is and always has been the biggest difference between us.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We are reactive and they are proactive. Everything from the AD down to the $5 fan. They are also in lockstep with messaging. We are not. We have too many of the $5 fans that think their opinion matters. They understand that you have to pay to play.

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Elitedawgs should start charging a monthly straight into our NIL so we can confirm the arm chair cowboys are at least putting money where their mouth is

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Elitedawgs should start charging a monthly straight into our NIL so we can confirm the arm chair cowboys are at least putting money where their mouth is

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Scooba floated that idea……it did not go over well to say the least. I for one love the idea though.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

We have to many that are waiting to believe. Thing is, believing is easy knowing is hard. That?s the issue. They have people who bought in because they know it is the best thing to do for the university. We never have understood that fact. We wait to believe as they know what to do.

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Buying in doesn?t equal success. It makes it easier but there?s plenty of schools spending big money that are trash. A&M pre elko, LSU, Auburn to name a few. You still have to have the right guy to maximize those dollars.

Kiffin proved he could be successful and the money started rolling in. He?s in year 6 and the checkbooks really opened up in year 4. Had Lebby beat UT, UF, and UT he?d have checks coming in too

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

Buying in doesn?t equal success. It makes it easier but there?s plenty of schools spending big money that are trash. A&M pre elko, LSU, Auburn to name a few. You still have to have the right guy to maximize those dollars.

Kiffin proved he could be successful and the money started rolling in. He?s in year 6 and the checkbooks really opened up in year 4. Had Lebby beat UT, UF, and UT he?d have checks coming in too

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Fair point but we dont know how it works here until we do it. And being out on Lebby before we try is asking for a rerun with a different name next go around

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

Buying in doesn?t equal success. It makes it easier but there?s plenty of schools spending big money that are trash. A&M pre elko, LSU, Auburn to name a few. You still have to have the right guy to maximize those dollars.

Kiffin proved he could be successful and the money started rolling in. He?s in year 6 and the checkbooks really opened up in year 4. Had Lebby beat UT, UF, and UT he?d have checks coming in too

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The money started rolling in for Lane July 1,2021. That was the first day NIL became a thing. They had been preparing for months. Our AD was busy plotting how the baseball team could make money off signed baseballs. Again, reactive and not proactive.

We have never gone all in on football. If we ever did, we would be surprised with the results. We could throw 18-22 million together each year for a roster if we would go all in. Unfortunately we will never do it.

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Fair point but we dont know how it works here until we do it. And being out on Lebby before we try is asking for a rerun with a different name next go around

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We've now had 2 seasons where Lebby has won fewer games than an "average coach" would have.

This year, the boosters gave him a roster that could easily have 7 or 8 wins right now, maybe 9 with a good coach, and Lebby gave them 5-6. Who's going to give him even more money next year?

I mean, if we knew that the talent was going to improve next year, even I would be willing to give him 1 more chance just to make sure, but all signs point to him having less talent, less fan support, less attendance, less enthusiasm, and ultimately less success and less employment at MSU.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

We've now had 2 seasons where Lebby has won fewer games than an "average coach" would have.

This year, the boosters gave him a roster that could easily have 7 or 8 wins right now, maybe 9 with a good coach, and Lebby gave them 5-6. Who's going to give him even more money next year?

I mean, if we knew that the talent was going to improve next year, even I would be willing to give him 1 more chance just to make sure, but all signs point to him having less talent, less fan support, less attendance, less enthusiasm, and ultimately less success and less employment at MSU.

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It's over for Lebby. We won't fire him until after the '26 egg bowl, but he's done

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

Buying in doesn?t equal success. It makes it easier but there?s plenty of schools spending big money that are trash. A&M pre elko, LSU, Auburn to name a few. You still have to have the right guy to maximize those dollars.

Kiffin proved he could be successful and the money started rolling in. He?s in year 6 and the checkbooks really opened up in year 4. Had Lebby beat UT, UF, and UT he?d have checks coming in too

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$$$ make the right guy a much easier target. $$$ make talent acquisition much easier. You are right it takes the right guy. But our situation is not theirs. Neither is the confederates. But they were proactive when they hired Kiffin and have not hesitated to give him and the program everything needed for success. We on the other hand are reactionary. We could have the perfect guy and our lack of support puts them in a lose, lose situation. Until we figure this out our football situation will continue to be as is.

No wonder Lenny takes no blame in his pressers... why should he? We don't hold him responsible for anything... it's all out fault