Known this since Toledo. Keenum snd Selmon should both go with him. It is embarrassing how bad they have continually found ways to be the worst leaders possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
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Known this since Toledo. Keenum snd Selmon should both go with him. It is embarrassing how bad they have continually found ways to be the worst leaders possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
We won't announce a decision until after signing day I would imagine. We may keep him anyway, but Rosie has been wrong before.
We are aware and that means Hutzler is staying. They generally do not announce if a coach stays on staff. However, it will be announced if Hutzler gets fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Dan Mullen would be awful. He can't recruit. And Lebby isn't going to leave him what Croom did. I can't imagine him being good at the portal either. Plus when he left MSU and Florida culture issues happened almost immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
MSU needs to stop gambling. Just hire someone that is a G5 coach that has taken a team to the top 25. That is likely the most proven formula for success IMO. Unless we can get a retread that is a legend. And I'm not talking about Dan ****ing Mullen. That would be like Polk 2.0 in football. Although I could totally see Dan coming back in the line of stupid moves by MSU football.
List of gambles:
1. Hiring Arnett and Barbay
2. Hiring Lebby and Hultzler.
3. Going all in on JUCO and bringing Hultzler back
1 and 2 have failed miserably. Why the hell should we expect 3 to work out? There is nothing even outside the box about it. All MSU does is recruit JUCO's and let's be honest that is because no one else is recruiting JUCO's so they're basically low hanging fruit. And don't give me the depth bullshit excuse. We're recruiting players that can't help us- what's the difference between these JUCO's that can't help us and the guys that currently can't help us? The coaches helped their buddy out at Hinds? Woopty ****ing doo.
And maybe if we get lucky next year our Hutzler can get our guys to line up correctly although the corners seem to have their 15 yard cushion down pat.
I know this is apparently a really big ask for MSU but we can we please use some common sense in football for once and do what has the best chance of succeeding rather than take another unnecessary risk before we lose to USM next year? At this point they might as well paint a big middle finger on the 50 yard line. I mean, Selmon came up in a football family and played in college and Keenum played JUCO football I'm sure- how can they look at this shit and think it's possibly going to work?
Mullen is a superioir talent evaluator. Superior.
To me, that is the most valuable asset in NIL era. Identify who is good in transfer portal.
Mullen takes too much grief from our fans, very underappreciated.
Might as well just go buy Ryan Silverfield away from Memphis State. Y4 and Y5 were 10 win seasons. So it's not him riding Norvell anymore. Y2 and Y3 were 6/7 win season.
The key is to bring a bunch of their players too. And just accept you're buying another team.
Other list with biggest pro/con:
Rich Rod - solid at Jax State and runs the style of football that always has worked well with State's talent. But has failed at Michigan and was meh at Arizona. Probably too old to trust with a rebuild and Jax State is bottom tier talent. Personally I'd pass.
Barry Odom - phenomenal at UNLV. If you can keep Brennan Marrion for a high buyout - it works wonderfully. But he did struggle at Mizzou. Not the first one and totally contingent on his OC who is the real deal imo.
Tim Albin - steady at Ohio. Biggest con is not knowing the south. I think he holds out for a midwest B1G job. If Ryan Day is gone I could see him being a hot name. I'd kick the tires on interest here.
Michael Desormeaux - if he has another 10 win season next season at ULaLa then he's the hot name. It's his alma mater so it would take some pulling, but he's a guy I could see us making a push. More info needed for me.
Charles Huff - the other name to zero in on. Knows State. Decent job at Marshall. Has won a big game. Multiple 9 win seasons. Young. If we go 3-9 next year or worse, he's who I think we hire. Him or Silverfield for me.
I think Dan realizes how good he had it, but ultimately he does hate recruiting and would rather be in the NFL. OU really wants him as their OC for next year. I think he wants NFL OC or nothing personally. Maybe in 2 more years of TV desk reporting and watching Jeff Lebby crater State then he'll come earn himself a statue.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Also, not sure wehre "Mullen cant recruit" came from. Many of our fans say it, but it's wrong.
The best players State has ever had, are from Mullen. It's not close.
People who say Mullen can't recruit are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
People who say Mullen doesn't want to recruit are right. Otherwise he'd still be at Florida and have won the SEC this year with his style. And I think it's more nuanced that Mullen doesn't want to kiss-ass recruit 5* types. He got burned too many times on that diva mentality and while it didn't always work, mentally it worked for him and State accepted it. Florida did not.
IT'll make it that much easier Dec of 2025 to fire the whole bunch. Salmon included
Mullen was our best coach EVER!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Arnett could've stayed DC instead of getting the HC job and we could've gone out and actually had a real coaching search. Oh well no use beating a dead horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
Huff is the lead candidate for the USM job. And we play USM in H'burg next season.
We should be on the phone to Geoff Collins offering him a fat check to come back here as DC.
We keep Hutzler and I'd bet $100 to NIL that we fire Lebby after next season. We can't go 0-8 in the SEC two years in a row.
Because State seems to have an excess of bipolar fans that have trouble dealing with reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
Why should Geoff Collins get a fat check? If we are going throw a fat check around it better be to someone who had a significantly better defense than we did, not a 91st in the nation type of defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I don't believe he's our DC next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
I had a conversation two weeks ago with a former Mullen player. He said Mullen told him "never say never, but I love what I'm doing". So I don't see Mullen ever coming back here and only certain jobs would appeal to him.
Oh good Lord. Collins is a MASSIVE upgrade from what we currently have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Mullen banked millions and now gets paid to talk about college football. I dont see him wanting the headache of recruiting and NIL ever again