Ok. At the very least they are former friendly acquaintances that knew each other coming in and that played in Lebbys favor to get and keep his job. Maybe that?s enough sugar and sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
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Ok. At the very least they are former friendly acquaintances that knew each other coming in and that played in Lebbys favor to get and keep his job. Maybe that?s enough sugar and sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Your argument back to me is a hypothetical. Im literally telling you, go look at those names in those classes. Nobody Leach recruited us is helping in 2024. Do you know how hard it is to be successful when you get nothing for 3 years out of recruiting? Then MSU did the most good ole boy thing imaginable and hired Arnette which was the final nail in the coffin. It will take 3 years if we do it right to get back to 2010-2020 standards. Let?s hope only 2 more years left.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBDawg601
Yep, that true. It?s a hard sale with this fire them all bunch. They are all pitch forks and torches, and don?t realize that part of why we suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
You continue to show you know nothing as to how this works. Since NIL killed State?can you ask Will to donate that $300K he got from us back? Or tell Nowell, Robinson, and Ashley in next years class at Brandon to not take NIL money from any school because ?that?s not the way?.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
You do realize not everyone in the fan base duck hunts, quail hunts, deer hunts, nor fish all the time correct? Some people do wear things different than boots and Wranglers and I can guarantee that there are more big money donor fitting into what I?m talking about than what you perceive as ?one of us? Remember you were suckin Arnett because ?he wore boots and was redneck like me from Rankin County?.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Again-not how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Will gave a bunch of it to bookie and tulu so they could stay while y?all ran him and his family down because he wouldn?t throw the ball deep enough. Im not even gonna begin to comment on the rest of thatQuote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
I get your argument, but the liklihood of anyone Leach recruited with any talent or ability to contribute would have left by now, is pretty high considering it's 2 coaches later.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Leach had some guys that contributed a hell of a lot more than ANYONE on this year's team through his few years with us. Including noodle arm WR. Leach averaged in the 25-28 range. Sure it's just numbers beside names, but those numbers are placed there by guys that do this shit for a living. It's not a random number and it does hold some value.
He sure did fool all of us after he let the wrong crowd call the shots. As far as the rest of that im not even sure how it is relevant to what I said at all. I?m just glad there is someone with more money than me to throw at this bunch we have running the show nowQuote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
It was 24 months ago that Leach died. I was told by everyone that Arnette was the right hire to keep that recruiting class together that was so important. Okay so those guys should have been 12 months in the program and ready to contribute this season in Aug 2024. Where are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by MBDawg601
To make my stance clear, I really liked Leach here but it?s just sticking your head in sand to pretend he didnt severely hurt our program for the next guy. Obviously not his fault, we all thought we had more time and rest in peace coach, but unfortunately life is not fair and that is what happened and it screwed us.
Then we doubled down by making the dumbest hire Ive ever seen a college team make in Arnette. We should have bit the bullet and done what we did this season last year. We added an extra year of misery that wasnt needed by promoting the most unqualified P5 HC coach in 2023 and trying to piece together some hybrid air raid bullshit. I get so mad just thinking about how dumb of a decision that was to ever hire him.
Man. Hiring Arnett was dumb as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
It was obvious after 1-2 games.
AmenQuote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Leach gave us the national attention that we had since the days of JWS. He was good for MSU in that respect. Leach had us respectable (in most cases) and was building something. Unfortunately, he was unable to complete what he started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Leach is 100 % to blame for our lack of defensive talent right now. I wasn’t aware that was even a debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
We were having to play a true freshman quarterback against the toughest schedule in the country. The decision to go get an injury prone quarterback was the problem and that falls on Lebby, but it is pretty obvious that the offense is not going to be an issue with Lebby.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
He was awful all year and got benched the last 2 games. Just like we said he would.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
We lost 1 SEC level defensive player in the portal. Look at where they all went when they transferred out. Dave Emerick destroyed our recruiting. Particularly on defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBDawg601
Leach died after signing day of 2022. There has been 1 recruiting cycle signing day since his death. These are his players and the defensive ones are almost all awful. That is not debatable. In this day and age, it will not be an excuse after this portal cycle though. If Lebby can’t flip the roster on defense in this portal cycle it is 100% on his staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBDawg601
Between him and the CC staff they burned damn near every bridge in the state and elsewhere. This staff is having to dig out from under that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Saw this tweet this morning https://x.com/langloismsu/status/186...AiOwVOmMGHXcTAQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****