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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Glad you two feel good
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100 x 0 = 100 hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Glad you two feel good
Do we control our on destiny on any of those remaining or are we waiting to see what the other schools do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
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Originally Posted by msstate7
How many times do people have to be reassured? Geez I thought I was into recruiting too much but some of you seem way obsessed. I feel like I have read the same post 200 times in the last 2 weeks.
How do you feel about the big stars left on board?**Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
Nervous isn't the right word. Trying to decipher what is panic and what is real. Believe it or not, even sources get caught up in the panic sometimes. Everyone needs to take a damn deep breath, step away from the keyboard before you post about CDM, a recruit, or the bears.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
mic, answer the question: Who does he have to answer to? Certainly not you or me.....anyone spending time on this message board fussing and fuming obviously doesn't have anything better to do and that is why CDM doesn't have to answer to you or me.....I love all these posts where folks make their demanding statements.....LOL....
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Originally Posted by mic
Nice! and....
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to msstate7 again.
What if I told you that Dan Mullen believes we sweep the board? Would that make you feel better?
the first question asked CDM during his presser about NSD will be this.. If it happens.. It will be a huge elephant in the room..Quote:
Originally Posted by oldjoedawg
His boss better be the first to ask the question.. That's doubtful..
How do you think Clemson has gotten to where they are ?. They recruited better.
He owes an answer to all the Season ticket holders as to how he is going to get to Atl like he said the goal is every year if you can close recruits in your backyard.
how do you take the next step ?? You need the players...
He says how he recruits the state first and Formost.. Ok that great. I like it.. Bu if you don't get but 1or 2 of the top 8 players in the state , what's going to be the answer if this happens.
He owes it himself .. **** as arrogant as coaches are and he is I would be pissed if this happened.. I would be in assistants asses as to what happened.. And if it is out of "their control" then we need to join the college football world of 2016..
The coaches need to recruit their asses off.. All year.. And the outside bullshit that EVERY school does needs to pick up and be ALLOWED to do what everyone else is doing.
It's my personal opinion , I think the previous staff work got outworked on the recruiting trail.. This new blood may change that, but one of the weak links is still on the staff..
We may finish very strong , I think we will do better than most think but we may lay an egg...
But if a coach is making 4million plus he is accountable for EVERYHTING in the program.. Good and bad..
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to mic again.
My bad if everyone wants to accept average...Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
That would be great..Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Thing is why shouldn't he sweep the board..? All the big board guys left are in state guys.. We are suppose to win in state recruiting . We always have.. That's been CDM's selling point.. And in year 8... Coming off 19 wins in 2 seasons he should..
Calm down...I tried to give you some positive rep points, but apparently many others agreed with your post before I did so I posted that instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
This is why he's kind of in a no win situation this last week. If things go left & he doesn't get these kids everyone gets to scream & say he needs to go. On the other hand he could sweep all the instate guys & some will say what's the big deal that's what he's supposed to do. I guess my biggest thing is why can't we wait 1 more week (7 Days THANK YOU GOD) before we combust & explode & complain. Let's at least see what the ending is before we meltdown. That's a foreign concept to MSU fans though. Meant for no one in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
Agree 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic
This is one of our problems as well. If we can't lock down 1/2 of the top 12 in the state, then we need to cast a wider net. We frankly just do not have enough names left on the board for a class w/ only 15 commits. We have to almost hit 90% from here on out to have a full class.
Another hankerson CB... Think it's a reflection on aj, farrar, or neither?
Probably all of the above. Feeling the rest of the class with diamonds
Neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Athlete... Could play WR or CB.. Would be a take no matter what happens..Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'm sorry, but that's chicken shit. He's dealing with the same issues that other schools are dealing with. Why is it a big thing that we wait until one more week to talk about the possibilities?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread...ight=hankersonQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You totally missed the point but ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
I don't know who all we will end up with. I feel good about several guys. AJ is a hot button topic because he is from Starkville and a great player. I know there are not 2 schools combined who have recruited and spent time with him, and Simmons for that matter, more than us. It looks like WE are choosing to not bring in the JUCO WR this weekend. That may change as everything does at the end of the recruiting cycle. If we do its not an indication that we are missing on someone. But like I posted the other day. We still sit with 15 commits and are not scrambling to find players just to fill out the class. Confidence seems pretty high where we sit on a lot of targets.
Exactly right, it's almost like as a fanbase we search for a reason to be unhappy. We are smack dab in the middle of our greatest football era ever, the program is healthier than it's ever been but still people complain. I agree some things could be a little better but building a program from scratch is a work in progress. Overall I'm completely happy with the direction we are headed and if we close big next week it will show we are getting there even more so!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Let it play out.
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Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Stop listening to sources and use common sense
This is the best argument for staying calm. Our staff is not incompetent. They may be trailing in some of the SEC recruiting tactics, but if they didn't have reason to feel good, they wouldn't be twiddling their thumbs, you'd see us scrambling with back-up plans, which for the most part I don't see happening. I'm not particularly optimistic, but if the staff isn't scrambling yet, I have to think they have reason for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
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Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
We have 10ish more spots. The board is Brown, Brown, Simmons, Knott, Lashley, Hankerson, Turnier, Dowdell, Reese, Cushenberry, Davis, Jones & Farrar (he's "committed" but I'm putting him here because we have to convince him not to flip). There's a lot of star power in that list. And not only that, but star power at positions of NEED.
That's 13 main targets. If the staff felt they weren't getting the majority of those guys, wouldn't we see a lot of late offers going out? We haven't seen that at all. There's been no scrambling to try and get a bunch of kids to visit last minute and no offers going out to prospects we've never heard off. That is part of the reason I feel good about finishing strong.
EDIT: What Johnson85 said...should have read your post first.
This is exactly my opinion. All these discussions are valid to have if things go poorly NEXT WEEK. To banter on right now about our shortcomings in recruiting isn't helping anything 1 week out from signing day. I mean the big targets everyone is worried about haven't committed anywhere yet. A lot of you have already written off Farrar yet he is still committed to us as of today. Right now I'm reserving judgement until I see where everyone ends up. If we basically end up getting skunked then a lot things should be discussed, but that hasn't happened. We could still end up with an excellent class when all is said and done. Just like you don't judge a season until its over, we shouldn't be judging our recruiting class until the signatures are in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
3 Nigel knott cb's to om and Zach farrar to Oklahoma
People are throwing spaghetti at the wall right now. Leo's CB was changed numerous times in the last week last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
At this point, there is too much noise for certainty on uncommitted guys, unless of course, you are certain.
If the CB guys really knew what was going on, they would have made their picks long before now.
All by Ole Miss mods. Yet, they wont pull the trigger on AJ. So easy to see through the BS.....Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And Crystal Balled AJ/Simmons to Ole Miss or Bama....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I still don't get all these statements. We only have 15 commits, but we already have one more commitment than we even have spots available at present time (14). A lot of people are freaking out about this on both sides. The optimists are saying we don't have many names left on the board because we are super confident in all the big names. The pessimists are saying we don't have enough names left to be able to sign a full class. Both of those viewpoints are 100% false. On paper, our class is already as full as it can be for us in regards to the 85 man limit. How many big names come our way on signing day simply dictates how many guys we are going to have to process in the summer. Its not in any way indicative of our coaches' confidence in landing the remaining players on the board, nor is it a doomsday scenario for our class size.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big4Dawg
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Originally Posted by HSVDawg
14 spots? You count extremely differently than the 64 returning scholarship players I count on the roster.
We generally sign to 87-88. Room for 23-24 exactly as everyone is saying.
Well how much more can be said without knowing the results? Way too much B.S has been stated and threats made that that cannot possible be backed up. And so just how much choice do you have? Wake me up Wed am, becaause unless these guys verbally commit before then, you or I will not know. But I wish I did. Don't pee into the wind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Most of those were from UNM site and David JohnsonQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Here is my count of scholarship guys departing from last year's roster:Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
1) Will Redmond
2) Zach Jackson
3) Dak Prescott
4) Joe Morrow
5) Taveze Calhoun
6) Kendrick Market
7) Devon Bell
8) Ryan Brown
9) Justin Malone (counting him, but he may come back)
10) Rufus Warren
11) Damien Robinson
12) Darion Hutcherson
13) Keith Joseph (RIP)
14) Derunnya Wilson
15) Beniquez Brown
16) Chris Jones
The last time I counted was a few weeks ago before Beni declared, and I also forgot about Joseph so thats how I ended up at 14. But still, that's only 16 guys (possibly 15 if Malone comes back) leaving and we have 15 commitments. So if you are right about the 64 returnees, that means we did some self-imposed 5 scholarship probation and only dressed 80 scholarship players last year. If there's someone or something that I'm missing, please let me know.
Yeah I'm not buying the whole Mullen is trying to build suspense narrative/guess either. He just doesnt seem the type to do that. I dont think we get AJ anymore cause he's not made any plans to OV here. If he were interested in BB too he'd have made an effort to meet Cohen & staff. He hasnt made any effort to do anything msu related. Think he's Bama bound & wanting to get out of Stark. Simmons is prob Usiss bound & I'm sure D. Brown to aub & Farrar to OK. R. Davis & Knott to Bama also.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg