Mizzou game

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

And who would you suggest we hire? I am being serious.

Sumrall? Auburn
Chesney? UCLA
Golesh? Same offense and will not take it if we fire Lebby
Silverfield? Arkansas

I mean you want to hire Gruden?

---

... I have posted a list of 16 names many times, and no, I didn't put Gruden on there.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

He is learning on the job. I also never said he would succeed here. I actually have said the opposite a few times. I am in wait and see mode and have been for a while. I will stay in that mode.

---

If you still can't decide whether or not Lebby sucks, what would it take?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by 1eyedog

I don?t know.....Mullen did that for a couple of years if memory serves me.......sending a 165 pound _____ up the middle when he had a stud waiting to go......

---

That was 2015, and we finished 9-4

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

... I have posted a list of 16 names many times, and no, I didn't put Gruden on there.

---

All 16 names will not come here if you fire Lebby after improving. And our fans can think what they want in terms of improvement. Other coaches are not as emotional. It is black and white. We were god awful last year and we have shown a ton of improvement this year.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

All 16 names will not come here if you fire Lebby after improving. And our fans can think what they want in terms of improvement. Other coaches are not as emotional. It is black and white. We were god awful last year and we have shown a ton of improvement this year.

---

0-8
1-7
Improvement

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Belichick 2.0 except worse.

---

Yeah... but I think Gruden cares and wants to put his energy into something we might go down in flames but it would be entertaining.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

All 16 names will not come here if you fire Lebby after improving. And our fans can think what they want in terms of improvement. Other coaches are not as emotional. It is black and white. We were god awful last year and we have shown a ton of improvement this year.

---

The team has regressed during SEC play.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The team has regressed during SEC play.

---

These dudes will literally suck Lebby off rather than face reality

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The team has regressed during SEC play.

---

The more Shapen plays the worse we look. Funny how that works

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

If you still can't decide whether or not Lebby sucks, what would it take?

---

Trending down. We are currently trending up. 2 wins to 5 wins is improvement. Actually having a P4 roster is improvement. Tonight was a disappointment and it sucked. I am extremely pissed. But I am also not going to be reactionary and say that Herbert Davis could run this program better than Lebby, and I respect Herbert a lot.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maverick91

Yeah... but I think Gruden cares and wants to put his energy into something we might go down in flames but it would be entertaining.

---

So as long as it is entertaining you are ok with sucking? Our fan base ladies and gentlemen….good lord.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Belichick 2.0 except worse.

---

Absolutely could be. At least Gruden has some college coaching experience.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

All 16 names will not come here if you fire Lebby after improving. And our fans can think what they want in terms of improvement. Other coaches are not as emotional. It is black and white. We were god awful last year and we have shown a ton of improvement this year.

---

Bullѕhit.

They said no one would come here if we fired Croom, but then we hired Mullen, one of the top coordinators in the country.
They said no one would come here if we fired Moorhead, but then we hired Leach, poached from a Power Five school and a top 10 national head coach.
They said no one would come here if we fired Lemonis, but then we hired O'Connor, poached from a Power Four school and a top 5 national head coach.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Trending down. We are currently trending up. 2 wins to 5 wins is improvement. Actually having a P4 roster is improvement. Tonight was a disappointment and it sucked. I am extremely pissed. But I am also not going to be reactionary and say that Herbert Davis could run this program better than Lebby, and I respect Herbert a lot.

---

So if Lebby had gone 4-8 last year instead of 2-10, would you be higher or lower on him?

I would be a lot higher on him, but apparently you wouldn't be because we wouldn't have the "improvement" ??

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Bullѕhit.

They said no one would come here if we fired Croom, but then we hired Mullen, one of the top coordinators in the country.
They said no one would come here if we fired Moorhead, but then we hired Leach, poached from a Power Five school and a top 10 national head coach.
They said no one would come here if we fired Lemonis, but then we hired O'Connor, poached from a Power Four school and a top 5 national head coach.

---

This dude will defend Lebby's garbage with the last breath in his lungs

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

So if Lebby had gone 4-8 last year instead of 2-10, would you be higher or lower on him?

I would be a lot higher on him, but apparently you wouldn't be because we wouldn't have the "improvement" ??

---

Correct. I would expect 6 wins if we went 4-8 last year.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We tried to get him out of the portal. His number ran both us and OM off.

---

We could have gotten him out of high school. He has D1 athlete in his genes and I know one former coach of his family members that pushed our coaches to take him. The knock on Ahmad was that he was not big or fast enough. He is currently a little bit bigger but no faster.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I think he is a really great offensive mind. He is still learning how to be a HC. That will come with time. We improved from 2 to 5 wins. That is a solid improvement. Like I said, he is still learning some things about being a HC and that pisses people off. However, you can see the improvement.

---

I had this same mindset before tonight. Tonight really, really showed he isn't cut out to be a HC. Tonight was an embarrassment to the fans and the University. And then I think about our other losses this season. Coaching has killed us. It would be different if Lebby was progressing but I see him regressing instead.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Bullѕhit.

They said no one would come here if we fired Croom, but then we hired Mullen, one of the top coordinators in the country.
They said no one would come here if we fired Moorhead, but then we hired Leach, poached from a Power Five school and a top 10 national head coach.
They said no one would come here if we fired Lemonis, but then we hired O'Connor, poached from a Power Four school and a top 5 national head coach.

---

1. We gave Croom five years. You're giving Lebby TWO.
2. We had plenty of scandals we could point to with Moorhead. Tutorgate, Shrader/Gay fight. Coaches understand if you fire someone because of that. Not for doubling the teams win total. If Lebby has a scandal then that changes things too.
3. We gave Lemonis four seasons after he won a NC. We wouldn't have gotten anyone if we fired him before that. So, again see point one.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Correct. I would expect 6 wins if we went 4-8 last year.

---

That's absolutely wild. "I am happy with 7-16 but would be less happy with 9-14."