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09-18-2021, 06:49 PM
DeltaChicagoDog

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Originally Posted by Activated Alpha

Sorry, but I still blame all this on Leach and the refs. They need to be publicly called out

This. This. This.
Were Leach and the booth watching or communicating at all during that whole turn of events?
09-18-2021, 06:49 PM
BayouDawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

They don't. I hate that it had to come to this though. Until shit got bad, we were being shut out in the 2nd half by this team of scrubs. This loss goes well beyond the refs ****ing us. Don't get me wrong; the refs certainly ****ed us, in ways I didn't think was possible....but we set the stage.

Yep letting a team hang around will come back to bite you. Would have thought the players and coaches learned their lessons after the tech game. But apparently not
09-18-2021, 06:51 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

What kind of bullshit is this post? Maine was a bad FCS team. Memphis is consistently one of the top G5 teams.

No SEC school should lose to Memphis.
09-18-2021, 06:51 PM
HancockCountyDog

Inexcusable loss.

Game should have never been close to be stolen from us.

It was 17-7 and we had a chance to put them away, we got cute, and lost.
09-18-2021, 06:52 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

All yall wanting Will to run the ball? That?s why. They are waiting on him. Leach is the worst short yardage coach in America right now.

The problem is Will taking way to long to make a decision. If he runs without hesitating I think he scores. Same thing last week there were times he could run and score but he thinks way too much.
09-18-2021, 06:52 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

No SEC school should lose to Memphis.

Maybe not (although SEC schools lose to good G5 programs every year), but that doesn't make it equivalent to Maine.
09-18-2021, 06:53 PM
Rahdawg

The sad issue is we have the talent to win.
We are undisciplined and Leach has no imagination on offense. This season will be Croom 2.0
And we are paying 5,000,000 for this. Hire Arnett interim tomorrow
09-18-2021, 06:54 PM
CaptainObvious

Or he could have done what the color commentator said right before the two point try. The color commentator said ? look for Johnson late out of the backfield?. Guess who was wide open for a walk in? 23.
09-18-2021, 06:55 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

The problem is Will taking way to long to make a decision. If he runs without hesitating I think he scores. Same thing last week there were times he could run and score but he thinks way too much.

There is absolutely no one open and 2 players waiting on him at the goal line. Are yall blind??? He did what he had to do
09-18-2021, 06:55 PM
NCMSTFAN

The refs beat us today... but the game should have never been this close. Memphis isn't good at all. And we aren't either. Leach doesn't really seem to care much either, I'm definitely not impressed. From what we ha e seen so far, he is worse than Moorhead
09-18-2021, 06:55 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

That was bush league ass officiating and they should be fired. Leach should be fired if he doesn?t raise hell

The first three words of your last sentence should suffice
09-18-2021, 06:55 PM
BuckyIsAB****

Leaches biggest problem is short yardage
09-18-2021, 06:57 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

The first three words of your last sentence should suffice

Naw. He needs to change his short yardage offense and I believe that 2 players with the same number on is a challengeable rule
09-18-2021, 06:58 PM
PendingTransaction

Just wait until Leach gets his players!!
09-18-2021, 07:00 PM
Bdawg

So if we kick that field goal instead of being cute, we are up 20-7 and don't lose momentum. Could have used those at the end of the game. Blame Leach for that. #10 did drop a TD pass though on that possession. Will is really limiting us though. It what it is. Don't know if I've seen 2 worse calls in a game. Official waves his hand to stop the play and onside kick goes to a review and finds a penalty that wasn't called on the field. Never in my life. I guess Bama ref throwing his hat and picking it up is close.
09-18-2021, 07:01 PM
IMissJack

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

No SEC school should lose to Memphis.

Right now, we are about like a MAC.
09-18-2021, 07:01 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

There is absolutely no one open and 2 players waiting on him at the goal line. Are yall blind??? He did what he had to do

What i saw was two backers split wide enough for Rogers to run it in if he didn't hesitate. Rogers acted like he wanted to run then turn back like he was going to pass then looked like he had no clue what to do before he decided to run. At that point yes he should just thrown it up. The dude has no legs at all but that gap was wide enough I believe for him to at the very least be tackled at the goal line.
09-18-2021, 07:02 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

So if we kick that field goal instead of being cute, we are up 20-7 and don't lose momentum. Could have used those at the end of the game. Blame Leach for that. #10 did drop a TD pass though on that possession. Will is really limiting us though. It what it is. Don't know if I've seen 2 worse calls in a game. Official waves his hand to stop the play and onside kick goes to a review and finds a penalty that wasn't called on the field. Never in my life. I guess Bama ref throwing his hat and picking it up is close.

Yea should've kicked the fg there and also im left scratching my head why we went for the two point conversion after the penalty. Those decisions really haunted us. Ref officiating aside
09-18-2021, 07:04 PM
TNDawg35

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

There is absolutely no one open and 2 players waiting on him at the goal line. Are yall blind??? He did what he had to do

Go back and look at it. If he hits him right when DJ hits the flat, DJ walks in. That is if Rogers didn?t throw it over his head or at his feet.
09-18-2021, 07:04 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

So if we kick that field goal instead of being cute, we are up 20-7 and don't lose momentum. Could have used those at the end of the game. Blame Leach for that. #10 did drop a TD pass though on that possession. Will is really limiting us though. It what it is. Don't know if I've seen 2 worse calls in a game. Official waves his hand to stop the play and onside kick goes to a review and finds a penalty that wasn't called on the field. Never in my life. I guess Bama ref throwing his hat and picking it up is close.

I've never seen a punt return like that in my life and I've never seen a penalty come about from a reviewed play that didn't even have a flag thrown. Unbelievable.
09-18-2021, 07:08 PM
PGHBulldogBG

The most frustrating part is that I really believed Leach took our job because he wanted to prove his offense would work in the SEC. I will be honest I wasn?t a believer in it but I gave the guy credit for wanting to try. I truly believed he cared. I criticized him but said he deserved 3 years. It?s just extremely disappointing to see his reactions today prove that I was wrong and he doesn?t care. He is clearly collecting a paycheck to retiring and this should be an instant fire. The team has heart for trying to come back and people bashing Will need to stop. This team doesn?t give up and I respect that but it?s not because of leach it?s because of our players. Now fire this clown and go get a real coach that believes in these kids because we have the potential to be really good next year if we do
09-18-2021, 07:09 PM
RocketDawg

Anybody going to listen to the post-game? It'll be interesting to see what Leach has to say.
09-18-2021, 07:09 PM
LC Dawg

If they reviewed the punt return they may have caught the players with the same number. Not sure if it's challengeable but if it is there's no excuse for Leach there. There's also no excuse for not having something called for the conversion that looked better than that shit play.
09-18-2021, 07:11 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

I've never seen a punt return like that in my life and I've never seen a penalty come about from a reviewed play that didn't even have a flag thrown. Unbelievable.

The more I think about it, them going back and adding the penalty to the onside review is the worst...because they knew they got it wrong, but they wanted to make sure we knew they wanted us to lose. I've bitched about refs before, as have you all, but this shit was on another level....just insanity.

That being said, it also pisses me off we can't entirely blame the refs for tonight. Making a shitty night shittier, lol.

Cheers, y'all. Let the bourbon flow...
09-18-2021, 07:11 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Or he could have done what the color commentator said right before the two point try. The color commentator said ? look for Johnson late out of the backfield?. Guess who was wide open for a walk in? 23.

I didn't see it on the overhead replay unless I missed something. Looked like everyone was covered and slot receiver on the right side just stood there.
09-18-2021, 07:14 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

I've never seen a punt return like that in my life and I've never seen a penalty come about from a reviewed play that didn't even have a flag thrown. Unbelievable.

I just don't understand why that puss of a back judge didn't run in and tell the other officials that he waived the play dead.
09-18-2021, 07:15 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

I didn't see it on the overhead replay unless I missed something. Looked like everyone was covered and slot receiver on the right side just stood there.

That's why you need wrinkles in the offense. I said it after the 2 pt try failed. The Mullen play of sending everyone out wide, and having the QB draw up the middle with the OL 1-on-1 would've scored there.

Instead, Will waited for guys to get open in tight coverage (which is expected), and broke on the run too late.
09-18-2021, 07:17 PM
SilentSteel16

Yes-Should have kicked FG, yes, I believe they went 90 yds and scored after getting ball.

Yes- Leach should have pressed the issue on the punt return and the make up penalty on on side kick, not sure of rules either way there but the ball looked down and ref was waving arms, the blue beanbag I thought meant lose ball and not DEAD could be wrong, but again don’t know rules there, the guy waving his arms never blew his whistle, just something to chew on.

Yes- Rogers hesitated at the end BUT he is not the reason we lost.

Yes- We should have never had such a close game or let them hang around, it seems like we generally take the 3rd quarter off on offense, place blame wherever there

NO- Rogers does not suck, he is clearly the best option we have. Does he hesitate at time yes, does he check down too quick at time, yes. BUT HE DOES NOT SUCK, he is young and performing very dang good for a 19 yr old kid

NO- despite all of Shotguns rants, SAWYER is not better or ready at this time, next year who knows, but today, NO.

Get over it, the refs screwed us but this game is entirely on us, we went soft in 3rd quarter again, if our offense consistently plays like they do in the final 4 minutes of game we would be blowing everyone out.
09-18-2021, 07:20 PM
PGHBulldogBG

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Originally Posted by SilentSteel16

Yes-Should have kicked FG, yes, I believe they went 90 yds and scored after getting ball.

Yes- Leach should have pressed the issue on the punt return and the make up penalty on on side kick, not sure of rules either way there but the ball looked down and ref was waving arms, the blue beanbag I thought meant lose ball and not DEAD could be wrong, but again don’t know rules there, the guy waving his arms never blew his whistle, just something to chew on.

Yes- Rogers hesitated at the end BUT he is not the reason we lost.

Yes- We should have never had such a close game or let them hang around, it seems like we generally take the 3rd quarter off on offense, place blame wherever there

NO- Rogers does not suck, he is clearly the best option we have. Does he hesitate at time yes, does he check down too quick at time, yes. BUT HE DOES NOT SUCK, he is young and performing very dang good for a 19 yr old kid

NO- despite all of Shotguns rants, SAWYER is not better or ready at this time, next year who knows, but today, NO.

Get over it, the refs screwed us but this game is entirely on us, we went soft in 3rd quarter again, if our offense consistently plays like they do in the final 4 minutes of game we would be blowing everyone out.

Agree with everything posted here. Unfortunately we have a head coach that let this all happen and doesn?t care. It?s really disappointing. We now have two coaches leach and Howland here to do the bare minimum to keep jobs before retiring.
09-18-2021, 07:22 PM
Eric Nies Grind Time

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

Agree with everything posted here. Unfortunately we have a head coach that let this all happen and doesn?t care. It?s really disappointing. We now have two coaches leach and Howland here to do the bare minimum to keep jobs before retiring.

How has Howland in any way done the bare minimum? He took over one of the worst men's basketball programs in the country and made it respectable.
09-18-2021, 07:44 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time

How has Howland in any way done the bare minimum? He took over one of the worst men's basketball programs in the country and made it respectable.

This.
09-18-2021, 07:48 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by LC Dawg

If they reviewed the punt return they may have caught the players with the same number. Not sure if it's challengeable but if it is there's no excuse for Leach there. There's also no excuse for not having something called for the conversion that looked better than that shit play.

Sad part on the final 2 point play is that if Will had looked to his left, the RB in the flat was running totally wide open. But Will never looked that direction.
09-18-2021, 07:51 PM
Percho

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

All yall wanting Will to run the ball? That?s why. They are waiting on him. Leach is the worst short yardage coach in America right now.

I agree with you and 11 should have caught the fade.

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