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12-14-2022, 02:52 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

Apparently it was very iffy if he was going to be able to finish the year around Auburn. We had a plan if things went south then just like we were quick to respond Sunday.

Do you not find it interesting Arnett was named interim over Hughes who has the actual title Associate Head Coach?

I also wonder IF the Pirate was close to stepping down, he obviously loved and trusted Arnett, hell he sent him to represent us in Tampa. That was strange I thought, makes me wonder if he was trying to make it to Tampa and call Key West his next step or move.
12-14-2022, 02:53 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Sorry I will make it more straightforward. There are only a handful of coaches that we would be interested in that would even entertain the thought of taking over a program who’s HC just died. There is also the small tidbit that at the earliest, if the hire is not Arnett, we will be making the hire the second week of January and in the portal era you need a new hire the second week of December at the latest to give the new staff a fighting chance.

Realistically you are looking at an extremely small list of people:

Todd Monken-maybe
Will Hall- I do not think he is ready
Dan- 50/50 on whether he is interested or we would be interested.

There are probably 3 or 4 more but pulling a sitting HC is just going to be almost impossible with the timing of all of this.

There is a LONG LIST of coaches that would jump all over this job.
12-14-2022, 02:54 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES. I figured I would lead it with it this time. This is not a normal coaching search. You are replacing a sitting P5 HC who was quite literally with his team 96 hours ago. This is not replacing a guy who got fired or a coach who is resigning or retiring. This has only happened 3 or 4 other times in the history of the sport. This is not on page 76 of the coaching handbook. With the timing of this and the circumstances surrounding it there just will not be much interest in this job from anyone other than extremely high risk candidates. Only a couple of P5 HCs that we would want will have legit interest in the job and only a handful of G5 HCs will and we cannot hire an outsider who has never been a HC to try and steer this ship after what has happened. And you are right the transfer portal is a game changer, but it is not a game changer in February. Only a handful of guys jump into the portal after spring practice. Again I am not making the hire. No one on this board is so our opinions are just that, OPINIONS.

I’m sorry. Not trying to be combative but this simply is not true in any way. We can hire who we would normally hire. None of this is going to change who would take the job. The season is a full year away. We aren’t trying to fill the job 2 months before the season. This is a nonissue in the hiring process. It really sucks for us and we are all grieving, but this ain’t going to stop someone from taking an SEC football job and tripling their salary in most cases. It just isn’t.
12-14-2022, 02:55 PM
CaptainObvious

The media talked way more about Dan Mullen after he went to Florida then they did when he was at State. They talked way more about Clay Helton at SC that at Georgia Southern. They talked more about Kiffin as OC at Bama than as HC at FIU. They talked more about Malzhan at Auburn than at UCF. And frankly they talked more about Mike Leach at MSU than at WSU.

If we can pull a moderately known to well known name, it just gets us more publicity and more eyeballs from transfers and recruits.

We have to TRY and get a recognized coach to come to State! It is the real estate we live in with Kiffin at Oxford, Saban at Bama, Fisher at A&M, Heupel at Tennessee and Kelly at LSU.
12-14-2022, 02:56 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

No. Jeff Traylor is a Texas High School coaching legend of the last decade and guys like are hard to ever pry away from a Texas school even in the best of times, which this is not. Those guys are wired differently and for a lot of them their dream is to lead a Texas FBS program. I am not saying it is impossible and from a recruiting standpoint he would get you into every high school in the state of Texas. I just do not see it happening. He also runs an RPO based spread so we would have to hope to find a mobile QB or roll with Parson.

Jeff Traylor would crawl to Starkville to be our head coach. I love you man but come on.
12-14-2022, 02:56 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I’m sorry. Not trying to be combs but this simply is not true in any way. We can hire who we would normally hire. None of this is going to change who would take the job.

Hey man I respect your opinion. I may not agree, but I do respect it. We need more of that every day but especially during these times. I enjoy each and every one of you and the community we have to come here and celebrate and occasionally complain about our school.
12-14-2022, 02:57 PM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

Apparently it was very iffy if he was going to be able to finish the year around Auburn. We had a plan if things went south then just like we were quick to respond Sunday.

Do you not find it interesting Arnett was named interim over Hughes who has the actual title Associate Head Coach?

Not really. Seems like associate head coach is usually associated with lead/top recruiter now.
12-14-2022, 03:13 PM
Coach34

We can pay $5MM per- there are plenty of people interested in our job. Coaches will take the job and then tell the media they are coming to StarkVegas to honor Leach's legacy and keep the program moving forward.

We make a hire in mid-January and roll on. It is what it is
12-14-2022, 04:18 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

That's the truth. I doubt Keenum is looking at message boards seeking directions on how to proceed.

Bert is staring
12-14-2022, 04:19 PM
was21

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Originally Posted by mo7888

To add to that: Every major sports publication has run tributes to the previous HC for two days now.... most coaches don't want to follow that...they'd rather be the guy after the guy in that scenario..

There has certainly been a lot of that. OTOH the publicity has been more about his personality and such, not so much his tenure at State specifically.
12-14-2022, 04:29 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

No. Jeff Traylor is a Texas High School coaching legend of the last decade and guys like are hard to ever pry away from a Texas school even in the best of times, which this is not. Those guys are wired differently and for a lot of them their dream is to lead a Texas FBS program. I am not saying it is impossible and from a recruiting standpoint he would get you into every high school in the state of Texas. I just do not see it happening. He also runs an RPO based spread so we would have to hope to find a mobile QB or roll with Parson.

Also has a huge buyout apparently.
12-14-2022, 04:33 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Bert is staring

Given the circumstances, Bert needs to stfu on this one.
12-14-2022, 04:33 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We can pay $5MM per- there are plenty of people interested in our job. Coaches will take the job and then tell the media they are coming to StarkVegas to honor Leach's legacy and keep the program moving forward.

We make a hire in mid-January and roll on. It is what it is

I know a lot of our fans disagree but I agree that this is the best way for us to go.

I have a feeling Keenum doesn't really know what to do completely either.

And I do understand that the players need stability but the reality is that position coaches leave every offseason no matter what. That's almost a certainty every year.
12-14-2022, 04:38 PM
MetEdDawg

Arnett the new head coach according to Thamel. 4 year contract
12-14-2022, 04:40 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Arnett the new head coach according to Thamel. 4 year contract

Being confirmed by Robbie Faulk and Ross Dellenger
12-14-2022, 04:40 PM
basedog

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I know a lot of our fans disagree but I agree that this is the best way for us to go.

I have a feeling Keenum doesn't really know what to do completely either.

And I do understand that the players need stability but the reality is that position coaches leave every offseason no matter what. That's almost a certainty every year.

Ur feeling Keenum may not what to do is wrong.
12-14-2022, 04:42 PM
StarkVegasSteve

It was the best option we had available.
12-14-2022, 04:42 PM
Goldendawg

Watching Finebaum for 1st time in years. Pete Thamel just wrote we will soon announce Zach Arnett has HC.
12-14-2022, 04:43 PM
Catfish

Let's all bet behind him! Hail State!!!!
12-14-2022, 04:43 PM
civildawg

I don?t mind it honestly. Give him 2 years and if it works, it works, if it doesn?t, you can move on

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