Anyone else excited about wisler' debut tonight? I really am. I just don't like that he's facing deGrom. deGrom won't give up much and it'll be even more pressure on wisler. Hopefully we can get a couple early runs
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Anyone else excited about wisler' debut tonight? I really am. I just don't like that he's facing deGrom. deGrom won't give up much and it'll be even more pressure on wisler. Hopefully we can get a couple early runs
Wish I could watch it but may try and catch the late broadcast. His last start was not great but prior to the that he had been very good.
Saying his last start wasn't great is a huge understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
3.2 ip 8 h 7 er 2 bb 0 k
His previous 7 starts though...
41.1 ip 39 h 9 er 6 bb 29 k 1.95 era
*the inning count for 7 starts is low bc rain washed out 1 start after 2.0 ip
?@KevinMcAlpin
Meanwhile, with Gwinnett, Mike Foltynewicz has allowed 7 ER in 3 IP. Just gave up grand slam in 3rd, his second HR allowed tonight.
Wisler's first start...
8.0 ip 6 h 1 er 0 bb 2 k
Fastball around 93. Very impressive debut. Hopefully he can keep it up.
Boomtown, population Jace Peterson.
And Wisler was sitting 94-95 in the first. Thanks, Padres!
Smoot... Are you becoming a believer in my boy, jace?Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Haha I've been a believer for a while now. I always liked him, just saw him more as an Infante-type super utility guy. I didn't know his defense was going to be this good, and he keeps hitting. I'd be fine trading Peraza now.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
What I'd love to happen is peraza pick up cf, lf, 2b, and maybe backup ss. That would allow him to play very regular and keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I think he has more value to us as a trade piece, especially with Albies in the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'll put it this way - if all we got in return for him in a trade was a good utility guy, I'd be pretty disappointed.
Wow. Probably our biggest series of the year facing one of the best pitchers in mlb with FF and our rookie pitcher gives us 8 innings of 1 run ball. What a performance!
Good point. LF, 3b, or catcher is what he should be cashed in forQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Sounds like as much as we critize Fredi, he made a good descesion to keep Wisler in for the 8th. His numbers look good, did he pitch that well or getting great defense?
Having to watch At Bat live stats, so I couldn't tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
@Braves
.@wisler233 went 8.0 innings w/no walks. No pitcher in Atlanta franchise history (since 1966) ever went as long in his debut w/no walks.
He pitched really, really well. Commanded all of his pitches, 10 groundball outs. It was a good decision to leave him in, but it was a no-brainer. He had thrown 75-80 pitches through 7, finished with 88. It would have been dumb to take him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
He hit 94-95 with his fastball.
Outstanding. Very low pitch count that deep. Especially for his debut. The book has been a good control guy and at 21, impressive night for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
He was lights out. Almost nothing hit hard. Only needed 88 pitches to get through 8. Could've had the complete game, but I understand going with Grilli in a 1-run game in the 9th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
he has more value than you think as a CF, because then we could carry an extra OF on the bench and let Peraza be the backup SS, keeping us from having to carry some light-stick backup SS like we usually do.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Albies is 3-4 years away. maybe longer. Peraza is ready now. and we can platoon him at CF and 2B. give JP some starts at 3B too.
i'm fine with trading him if it fills a need, but i doubt we get a legit 3B or power hitter for him, so i'd rather keep him.
@mbraves
Arodys Vizcaino has been transferred to @mbraves #MBraves to continue his ML rehab assignment. #Braves
Peraza isn't ready now, not as a CF. We don't know yet if he'll be able to play CF at all. And we now have Maybin and Mallex Smith there, so there's a logjam and somebody will have to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
And Albies is likely 3 years away at most. I think he'll finish next year in AA with an outside chance to come up at some point in 2017. He's not some kind of long-term project.
I go with Simmons and Peterson up the middle while waiting on Albies, and I'm ok with Maybin now and Mallex as the future in CF. Peraza could be the centerpiece of a pretty good deal.
how is an 18 year old in A ball not a long term project?? it'll be 2 years before he's in AA, book it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
it's not really a logjam since there's platoon options there and JP can play 3B. and especially with Maybin only signed thru next year.
yes, if Peraza can be a centerpiece in a deal, then sure. but i doubt it. he doesn't walk and doesn't hit for any power, and those guys are never centerpieces.
Personally I'm not sure Peraza alone would be enough to bring in what we really other than at the catcher position. But him with one of our good young arms that we are trying build a surplus of, then you have something.
Era. Although I personally think you hold him for a while longer unless someone blows your socks off with an offer. Be patient there is no rush. Staying put is sometimes the best move.
Peraza, Bethancourt, and decent pitching prospect for Jonathan lucroy.
Lucroy is just what we need. He's a great, rh hitting catcher
3 more hits tonight for Albies puts him THIRD in all of MiLB in hits....
He's also the THIRD youngest position player in full season ball....
Because Albies is a different breed. He may be 18, but is absolutely killing A ball and will hit at any level. He will start next year at A+, no question, and unless he struggles there, I would predict a call-up to AA after 3-4 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Was Carlos Correa a long-term project when he was 18 in A-ball? Because he was there in 2013; it's now June of 2015 and he's starting at SS for the first-place Astros.
Peraza would not be great value at 3B. His defense might not carry as well there, and suddenly he would not be great offensively at the position.
That wouldn't get us Lucroy.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
According to how "decent" the pitching prospect is. If "decent" is hursh, then no. If "decent" is Teheran, then it would get lucroy.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Braves win 6-4. First series win in nearly a month.
Bravo Braves. With FF out and using rookie SP's on back-to-back nights, the Braves take 1st 2 from what was the 1st place mets. This was our first series win in like a month. Hopefully Teheran can bounce back and complete the sweep tomorrow
Peraza aint in Correa's league. and i didn't say put Peraza at 3B some, I said Peterson.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Braves acquire RHP Touki Toussaint from #DBacks. Rest of trade not know. DBacks? No. 5 prospect, per Baseball America.
11:45 PM
@DOBrienAJC
#Braves traded Gosselin for #Dbacks RH Bronson Arroyo and #Dbacks RH prospect Touki Toussaint, No. 16 pick in draft @Ken_Rosenthal had 1st
@grantmcauley
Bronson Arroyo threw a bullpen session back on 6/2. No timetable for return yet, but expected back around the All-Star break. #Braves
I was comparing Correa to Albies. Allies may not be Correa, but he has a chance to similarly blow through the minors.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
And sorry, Jose Peraza is a JP, too.
This is amazing. Seriously unbelievable. The D-Backs are really, really stupid. We just did unspeakable things to them in this deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Wow! The Braves got Touki Touissant just to take on Bronson Arroyo's contract! Holy cow! Suddenly, pitching has become a strength in the system. Braves now have 5 top 100 prospects.
I'm seriously speechless over this deal. The Braves, in the last 3 weeks, have added probably the two HS pitchers with the most upside over the last two cycles and now have SEVEN former 1st round pitchers who are 24 or younger in the system.
The last 7 months have seen us add the following:
Shelby Miller
Cameron Maybin
Jace Peterson
Mike Foltynewicz
Matt Wisler
Manny Banuelos
Max Fried
Rio Ruiz
Mallex Smith
Dustin Peterson
Tyrell Jenkins
Ricardo Sanchez
Touki Touissant
Kolby Allard
Mike Soroka
Austin Riley
That is flat out ridiculous.
Speaking of Sanchez... He's given up 1 er in his last 14 ip. Dropping his era from 8.79 to 4.76. Hopefully this kid is figuring it out.
I can tell you right now that is going to go down as one of the worst trades in MLB history for the Diamondbacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7