Next Head FB coach

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I can't believe he's a serious candidate. We are a Top 30 job. The SEC is big business. You are hiring the front man for your multi-million dollar business. You better do a national search. We could miss on 10 targets and Arnett would still take the job. Naming him coach without a real search would be monumentally dumb.

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He's a successful P5 coordinator. He doesn't have a track record with the length you would typically want, but he's coached under a great defensive mind and now under a great head coach and has shown success as a DC. He's already shown he can be successful with the type of recruits we get against the competition we play. He's checks all the boxes for the type of experience you want, just not the length. I agree you have to do a national search, but I disagree that he's not a top 10 candidate. Now would he be if he were not already here? Likely not because of his short track record, but he is here and that does play into it.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Hmmmmmm, lots of rumors. Things might not be as they seem. End of the week should tell us a lot.

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Speaking in terms of AD or HC? If an AD is in place that will help get the ball rolling on making a decision on a coach.

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Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg

Homedawg, what do you think the odds are of Keenum taking the interim tag off Arnett sooner rather than later? Legit possibility?

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There is a bit of rumbling about it. I can't put a percentage on it, yet.

He's making a lot of money at OK State, but I think big 12 is falling out of prestige losing OU and Texas. That's why you might be able to pull Aranda or Gundy. Aranda more so than Gundy.

Dana runs the ball more for sure. Probably more modern. Is he up on the portal though and recruiting. Does he want to leave texas

I like arnett but I would go after Aranda before him. Proven he can be a head coach at power 5 wouldn't take much to get him to SEC. If we are going the Defensive guy route.

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Originally Posted by trojandawg

I like arnett but I would go after Aranda before him. Proven he can be a head coach at power 5 wouldn't take much to get him to SEC. If we are going the Defensive guy route.

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Aranda ain't coming

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Aranda ain't coming

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Good. I doubt he's asked to come.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Aranda ain't coming

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How do we know that for sure? Armada is from the Leach tree, has HC experience and dammit, if we could get the GOAT we sure as hell could get one of his disciples. MSU isn’t a bottom feeder Nationally. We sell our selves short all of the time and it’s maddening.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Well he was screaming arnett all day yesterday, so this seems like he's moving away from that prediction.

I really hope this is the case. I love ZA, but man, I don't know about HC. If this unfortunate event had happened when diaz, Collins, grantham, or shoop were here, I woulda been against all them too even though they were great

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Understandable

I would kick the tires on Kittley, Fritz, Klieman, Riley, for sure. If Kingsbury gets fired and we can keep Arnett as DC, that would at least be interesting. This could all end this week with Arnett or it could be into Jan. Let's see Keenum earn his pay the next couple weeks, lol.
So many different versions of things and different boosters saying different things too. I can't even get a response beyond the eyeball emoji from a friend that's normally on this kind of stuff. I guess we all figure it out the next 3-5 days. Signing day is something to really watch now.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I would kick the tires on Kittley, Fritz, Klieman, Riley, for sure. If Kingsbury gets fired and we can keep Arnett as DC, that would at least be interesting. This could all end this week with Arnett or it could be into Jan. Let's see Keenum earn his pay the next couple weeks, lol.
So many different versions of things and different boosters saying different things too.

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Klieman would be my first call. He only makes 3.5 so he would at least listen.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Aranda ain't coming

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You don't know that. We got leach to come here. With the right money and SEC he would come.

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Originally Posted by trojandawg

You don't know that. We got leach to come here. With the right money and SEC he would come.

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Baylor has $$$$ we can?t come close to.

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Originally Posted by trojandawg

You don't know that. We got leach to come here. With the right money and SEC he would come.

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He makes $6M. I'm not sure his record so far justifies throwing a lot more than that at him. Plus, with the expanded playoffs and the SEC being considerably tougher than the Big 12, I'm not sure if the SEC is as big of a draw or not. On the one hand, the SEC can plausibly get 4 teams into an expanded playoff. On the other hand, is it going to be easier to be top 4 in the SEC than top 1 or 2 in a depleted Big 12?

Plus, let's say conference alignment continues to happen and a school like Baylor gets left out. With how quickly coaches get cycled through, successful coaches are still going to get opportunities in whatever super conference(s) emerge.

I don't understand all this "We should bring in X as head coach and keep Arnett as DC" talk. That's not a decision we, as MSU, will get to make. We're not going to go hold a national search and tell our targets "we want you to take our HC position, but you have to keep our current DC". Now, a new coach may want to keep him, but that's totally on the coach. Most of them would come with their own DC.

The only way MSU makes the decision to keep Arnett is if we attempt to keep the entire staff together by promoting from within (Arnett included).

Don?t be surprised if we have a coach before we have a AD. Might have been Leach recommendation.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Klieman would be my first call. He only makes 3.5 so he would at least listen.

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Yep....he's a good one.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Klieman would be my first call. He only makes 3.5 so he would at least listen.

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Without knowing much about him other than his wikipedia, that seems like a pretty reasonable candidate.

I think he and Shane Beamer are people that should at least get a significant raise out of this situation. Both should get calls and should be credible enough candidates that their school should be willing to up their pay by $500k to $1M (probably at least $1M for Beamer)

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

Don?t be surprised if we have a coach before we have a AD. Might have been Leach recommendation.

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Kinda what I was thinking.