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12-14-2022, 09:35 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Johnson85

Because there is very likely no coach we can pull that would justify us guaranteeing a rebuild on offense. Name the coaches that are such a sure thing, that we can actually pull, that it's worth having to rebuild on the offensive side of the ball?

Malzahn?

Mullen? (I don't think his style of player management will do well in the transfer/portal world, even if he could convince people that he still has the fire to be a head coach right now, which I doubt he does, although it may come back after a year or two more off).

Mike Gundy (we're not getting him to leave Ok St.)

If we're looking at two equally risky candidates, why would you take the one that guarantees a difficult transition?

Our offense wasn't good this year though. What exactly are we saving?
12-14-2022, 09:41 AM
TNDawg35

I really wish we would give Gus a look and let Arnette stay DC.

Or here’s an idea. WhT about Ol Ball Coach. Let him be the CEO and let Spurrier JR be coach in waiting. Let Jr get the ropes of it all and take over in a couple seasonss
12-14-2022, 09:41 AM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Our offense wasn't good this year though. What exactly are we saving?

Our offense wasn't good cause of the QB. The scheme is fine.
12-14-2022, 09:44 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by memsu06

We are in a unique position. Leach has assembled an awesome coaching staff. I wouldn't change anything about it.

He has us nearly fully transitioned over to the Air Raid system. We have continuity on defense with Arnett.

It makes sense to go after one of his former players/students of the game. The new HC will be walking into a team ready to take off.

A lot of people around here fail to grasp this. They want to bring in a new HC and start from square one all over again. Then I'm sure the same people will be bitching about the new coach b/c he's not turning it around fast enough.
12-14-2022, 09:50 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Our offense wasn't good this year though. What exactly are we saving?

Our offense wasn't good this year, but it's got a lot of pieces in place and it's a lot better than it will be than if we ask this personnel plus a few transfers of the type we'd be likely to get to run a non-air raid based offense.

That said, if we have a coaching candidate that can bring in a QB, it may not be that bad of a transition. I just don't know what happens if you ask this group of OL to switch to a more traditional scheme.
12-14-2022, 10:12 AM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

A lot of people around here fail to grasp this. They want to bring in a new HC and start from square one all over again. Then I'm sure the same people will be bitching about the new coach b/c he's not turning it around fast enough.

No one is hoping we go to a triple option or a Relf offense.

The issue is that CML was a 1 of 1 in a lot of ways. We were the only school in the country that ran this offense. Now, does that mean we scrap the entire air raid and start over? No, but we can't just rule out candidates because they may have a 50/50 balance. Now, can we hire a coach that requires the QB to run it 8-10 times a game? Sure, we could, but we would have to hit the portal because Parsons won't be ready for that and that isn't our best choice.

All of this is moot if we are just going to hire Arnett, let him hire an OC that is very air raid friendly and go from there, which is very likely, especially if he wins the bowl game.
12-14-2022, 10:26 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Our offense wasn't good this year though. What exactly are we saving?

Imagine if we had lost the Egg Bowl. No one would want the Air Raid. Hire the best coach Keenum.
12-14-2022, 10:27 AM
Johnson85

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

No one is hoping we go to a triple option or a Relf offense.

The issue is that CML was a 1 of 1 in a lot of ways. We were the only school in the country that ran this offense. Now, does that mean we scrap the entire air raid and start over? No, but we can't just rule out candidates because they may have a 50/50 balance. Now, can we hire a coach that requires the QB to run it 8-10 times a game? Sure, we could, but we would have to hit the portal because Parsons won't be ready for that and that isn't our best choice.

All of this is moot if we are just going to hire Arnett, let him hire an OC that is very air raid friendly and go from there, which is very likely, especially if he wins the bowl game.

It's not about run v. pass balance, it's about personnel. If our OL can block for the scheme and they are bringing a QB that can run it (not sure Will can do anything too far away from the Leach version or air raid), then it doesn't matter if that scheme ends up at 60/40 run pass. But if you want to switch to a scheme that our current OL are not suited to run, that's just unnecessarily painful for the program unless you are getting they type of sure thing head coach that we are just unlikely to be in the running for, unless you consider Malzahn that type of coach.
12-14-2022, 10:34 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

No one is hoping we go to a triple option or a Relf offense.

The issue is that CML was a 1 of 1 in a lot of ways. We were the only school in the country that ran this offense. Now, does that mean we scrap the entire air raid and start over? No, but we can't just rule out candidates because they may have a 50/50 balance. Now, can we hire a coach that requires the QB to run it 8-10 times a game? Sure, we could, but we would have to hit the portal because Parsons won't be ready for that and that isn't our best choice.

All of this is moot if we are just going to hire Arnett, let him hire an OC that is very air raid friendly and go from there, which is very likely, especially if he wins the bowl game.

Anybody not wanting a modified air raid guy at this point is an idiot. And that's the point b/c we have guys that want to go get a ground and pound offensive minded head coach. If we do that we'll be extremely lucky to win 6 games next season.

I'd be surprised if we don't hire Arnett.
12-14-2022, 10:39 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Imagine if we had lost the Egg Bowl. No one would want the Air Raid. Hire the best coach Keenum.

And arnett wouldn't be a candidate at all.
12-14-2022, 10:39 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Anybody not wanting a modified air raid guy at this point is an idiot. And that's the point b/c we have guys that want to go get a ground and pound offensive minded head coach. If we do that we'll be extremely lucky to win 6 games next season.

I'd be surprised if we don't hire Arnett.

what is a ground and pound these days other than the service academies and Bert? I will say this, I would love a coach who could run a QB sneak on 4th and inches.
12-14-2022, 10:40 AM
Cooterpoot

Hmmmmmm, lots of rumors. Things might not be as they seem. End of the week should tell us a lot.
12-14-2022, 10:41 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

what is a ground and pound these days other than the service academies and Bert? I will say this, I would love a coach who could run a QB sneak on 4th and inches.

Qb sneaks seem to be a lost art for all college coaches. It's basically automatic in the nfl... not sure why it isn't used in college
12-14-2022, 10:41 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

And arnett wouldn't be a candidate at all.

I can't believe he's a serious candidate. We are a Top 30 job. The SEC is big business. You are hiring the front man for your multi-million dollar business. You better do a national search. We could miss on 10 targets and Arnett would still take the job. Naming him coach without a real search would be monumentally dumb.
12-14-2022, 10:41 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Hmmmmmm, lots of rumors. Things might not be as they seem. End of the week should tell us a lot.

What are you hearing?
12-14-2022, 10:43 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Qb sneaks seem to be a lost art for all college coaches. It's basically automatic in the nfl... not sure why it isn't used in college

It's just b/c there are coaches out there who never go under center. But I don't know what TCU was thinking not running the sneak with Duggan. They are lucky it didn't cost them a playoff spot.
12-14-2022, 10:44 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

What are you hearing?

Well he was screaming arnett all day yesterday, so this seems like he's moving away from that prediction.

I really hope this is the case. I love ZA, but man, I don't know about HC. If this unfortunate event had happened when diaz, Collins, grantham, or shoop were here, I woulda been against all them too even though they were great
12-14-2022, 10:48 AM
mo7888

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Our offense wasn't good cause of the QB. The scheme is fine.

This pretty much..
12-14-2022, 10:54 AM
was21

Exactly. And with the transfer portal utilized efficiently the composition of a roster can change overnight.
12-14-2022, 10:55 AM
Catfish

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Well he was screaming arnett all day yesterday, so this seems like he's moving away from that prediction.

I really hope this is the case. I love ZA, but man, I don't know about HC. If this unfortunate event had happened when diaz, Collins, grantham, or shoop were here, I woulda been against all them too even though they were great

Agree, I want ZA to stay right where he is. Love his defense.... and it really pissed of Kiffin.

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