$5 million for the buyout and $5 million for the coaches pay? Lol that?s cheap? And for Barry Odom. Woof.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
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$5 million for the buyout and $5 million for the coaches pay? Lol that?s cheap? And for Barry Odom. Woof.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Then instead of telling everyone who we aren't getting, how about telling us who we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
We're counting on you Zac Selmon. Make something historic happen. Don't let us down.
How can I if we haven't offered anyone yet and it accepted? Want me to make something up? We've seriously talked with Chadwell, Elko, Sumrall, Fritz...Odom is pushing hard and we will meet with him I believe. Think nothing more than cursory discussions with Schumann but can't say that has been serious. I mentioned a week or so ago about Matt Campbell, I don't know if anyone else has talked about that. We reached out to Lance Leipold to gauge his interest. Gus Malzhan to guage his interest. Not sure what level Dave Dorean interst is, same with Lashlee. A lot of interest from coaches but how much is reciprocated? Seems like a lot of shuffling to get raises and waiting out the carousel.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcat91
If State interviewed those 4 guys, and didn't make an offer to Elko Or Fritz, I would like to know why they even took the interview. I have never interviewed for a job I didn't want to accept if everything lined up for both sides. I don't believe in wasting mine or their time and money because they aren't interviewing on campus and it cost several thousands just to crank the damn plane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Because it is a P5 job in the SEC???? I mean what are they going to say, I am not going to interview unless I have an offer? Not how it works at this level of CFBQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
What? Multiple coaches are interviewed every year at nearly every school with openings without offers being made. With Elko, I'm sure we asked what would it take to get him but he is up for other jobs or using our job for leverage. If interest increases then the real offer and negotiations will begin but he is a wait it out coach. With Fritz, we just met with him and I'm not sure we are at an offer stage with him yet or just cursory discussions to get ducks in a row. You do your due diligence. But coaches take interviews all the time for leverage with their school or with other schools they are talking with.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
We haven't offered the job to be turned down by anyone yet is my hope and the point about even interviewing is: Find out if their damn interest is serious before even scheduling an interview. Don't waste our time and we won't waste yours Coach!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We are looking for a guy who WANTS to move his family to The Great Prairie of East Mississippi!
If Fritz said no, then our Admin damn sure tried to lowball him. No way a 63 year old probably looking at his last chance to coach in a P5 conference turns down $4.5 to $5 mil! And that is why I say no one has been offered that Selmon seriously thought he could get!
Completely different working environment and culture in the coaching world compared to the regular job sector.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
You understand there are different stages of the interview process right? You start with a large list, preliminary discussions, second rounds of interviews, then finalists, then offer to your guy. You try not to make official offers to more than 1 guy...throwing out offers and getting rejected by multiple guys causes a cluster chaos in a coaching search. But what we are doing is by far the norm in coaching searches.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Jeff Lebby says Hi.
What business man does and interview and offers the job to someone who at the end of the interview doesn't say <I WANT THE JOB!> I have never gotten a job from an interview without asking for it. I have never offered a job in an interview who if the candidate didn't ask for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah...these are coaches not businessmen and it's a different interview process with agents and coaches involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
remember Selmon's words (paraphrased): "If you're not hearing it from me, it's not real."
As I understand it from this thread we apparently interviewed guys who are not interested in our job. Why? Your post here identifies the process and I get that. To get to the Interview phase, someone should show serious interest in the job. Chadwell doesn't have interest and should not have been interviewed. Waste of time by both sides. College football is a business. All phases should work like a business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
He is going to show interest long enough to get a raise. It is the game you have to play in this business. Just like interviewing for a job in the business world and using it as leverage to get a raise.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
And that's the whole point. How can we say someone is out of the running, when no one knows who isQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Dude, there is interest, that's why we spoke with them. That interest changed - Chadwell, undetermined - Elko, etc. You have to do your due diligence with every coach that is on your A and AA list. If it's a top candidate you have to talk with them, even if in the end it's their agent moving things in the background for something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
So it was back channel talks, not formal interviews then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I just listed coaches in the running. Chadwell and Malzhan have pulled out. Leipold was never very serious...I mean what more do you want? You asked specifically who we are getting I gave you the best answer I have, now it's "no one knows who is" in the running...come on man.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcat91
We met face to face with more than one candidate. Multiple of our people, Selmon included met with them. It's how coaching searches go.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Starkville MS is a hard sell. Ask any non MS homer and literally any P5 location is equivalent or better.
I would take Starkville over Gainesville every day of the week. Other than the campus, the city of Gainesville is a $hithole.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg
Yeah. I'm from the GTR. So my perspective is Starkville is great. However if someone offered me a job in Manhattan or lawerence KS or Pullman, WA or Corvallis, OR..... I dnk.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg
Same with Oxford. A bunch of smoke from Homer's on how great it is. Thing is, it's just a small town. Square is nice but that's all there is. Some nice restaurants. News flash, go to Laural MS and it has a nice downtown and restaurants too. Starkville does a well. Starkville doesn't have the downtown like Oxford but if you talk with people that have been to Starkville lately they rave about the cotton district. The media hypes Oxford up because that's where a lot of them went to school. The one thing that is better is the public schools. Other than that it's not much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg
What I've noticed is the people that talk crap on Starkville, if you ask them the last time they've been there, you'll get two answers. 1- never 2- not in the last decade.
Now I know that you're troll and are likely going to have a great day tomorrow but yall's day is coming too. Doctors (especially since a great deal of them didn't go to college in Oxford) and the majority of lawyer aren't going to donate big money and not on a scale boosters from Texas and OK will. Ole miss is about to be right back where they were a few years ago
Yes but that shithole is 2 hours from Orlando and Tampa. Our shithole is 2 hours from Jackson and Birmingham. Pretty huge difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelCurtain74
A salary can make everything glitter like gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg
And at these salaries, you could fly in the Dean of Cambridge and have him or her Home School your kids. So Schools are no longer a factor either.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
This. The more I travel the more I realize i don’t need to travel to enjoy myself. Not really. And Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, NY just doesn’t float my boat anymore after a few visits. I’ve found I have everything that I need and want right where I’m at in rural MS. If I want to experience something amazing I’m going to Europe, Caribbean Isles, Fiji, Japan, or Thailand. I can guarantee you most coaches think the same way. Those dudes STAY in the road and in the office they aren’t traveling to Orlando on their off weekends hahahah!Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Michigan St appears to be going for Jonathan Smith as their top guy.
Pullman WashingtonQuote:
Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg
Equivalent or betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Dang can't even pull Liberty's HC, seems like expectations should be lowered dramatically
Some of you need to save your melt for Thursday - will be plenty of chances for that then - let this play out
Well, he does have two more games to play, I’m not saying he is out or not, but he has to keep rumors at bay. Just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
Very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
This. Things will get real interesting come Friday. If we haven't announced by Monday then I'm betting it's Chadwell.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
If this is true it?s pretty dam disappointing. I wanted this guy, When I listened to him talk it resonated.