Lame Kitten whispers to A&M start growing louder

Printable View

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

11-20-2023, 05:23 PM
RocketDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thick

I agree. OM is doing well, so Kiffin leaving while we are hiring a HC is not a good thing. Plus, they will pay top dollar for a sitting P5 HC, and they have upside on their current roster where as we will be a complete rebuild. He needs to stay at the plantation!

Well, both A&M and OM are going to bowls. We likely are not. We could hire a good, new guy Friday morning and they'll have to wait a while.
11-20-2023, 05:26 PM
Really Clark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Well, both A&M and OM are going to bowls. We likely are not. We could hire a good, new guy Friday morning and they'll have to wait a while.

Don't get your hopes up on a hire this weekend. It may even be after the conference championships a week later.
11-20-2023, 05:30 PM
Catfish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Don't get your hopes up on a hire this weekend. It may even be after the conference championships a week later.

Any idea who we're looking at?
11-20-2023, 05:33 PM
LC Dawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcat91

If I remember correctly, Lanes girlfriend is in Dallas. Much closer at College Station

Lane may want to be close to his girlfriend but I'll bet Joey Freshwater would like a little distance between them.
11-20-2023, 05:43 PM
Santiago

Quote:

Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Don't get your hopes up on a hire this weekend. It may even be after the conference championships a week later.

I wasn't expecting an announcement, but was more assuming a letter of understanding. Do you think that is also pushed out as well?
11-20-2023, 05:50 PM
GoDawgz

"But.... but..... but..... we have the Grove!" says every UM homer!
11-20-2023, 05:52 PM
State82

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Here is why I think it's very possible lane could win up at am. They have crazy money and don't give a crap how they spend it(see Jimbo). They're tired of watching Jimbo pedestrian offense that gave them zero excitement. They want excitement and they might just throw stupid money at lane. Time will tell. Either way ol lane bout to get paid again by somebody, lol.

And, there is no state income tax in Texas. That can be somewhat substantial when talking about those kind of salaries.
11-20-2023, 05:57 PM
Westdawg

My personal take -
Lane wants Bama. He?s willing to sit until Bama comes open (at least he has).
It?s obvious when Saban talks this past year, he has gotten a little (very little) nostalgic and talks about building relationships with his players and bridging them beyond football. I?ve heard him several times at conferences, and he?s as good as anyone to make the ?rah rah - building men? speech?but I?ve noticed it?s different lately, you can see it in his eyes as he talks. He knows it?s getting close.
I personally believe that - definitely if he wins it all this year, and I think that?s his focus?like really real focus - he?s riding off into the sunset.
He doesn?t want to have to navigate these recruiting waters anymore with portal and now the NIL.
He doesn?t like the thought of having an extended playoff. He and his staff won?t have the chance to hyper focus on one (or two) opponents, but have to possibly play three games in a row after a conference championship AND the Iron Bowl. It?s a lot, and he knows it.
And I know we all think there?s bad blood there between them, but I think Kiffen gained Saban?s respect behind closed doors. He?s the only guy who stood his ground with Saban and survived it and did his own thing.
I think Lane is waiting for Bama to come calling.
11-20-2023, 06:12 PM
Commercecomet24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Don't get your hopes up on a hire this weekend. It may even be after the conference championships a week later.

I agree. I think at earliest it'll be next Monday or as you said after conference championship games.
11-20-2023, 06:25 PM
Really Clark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Any idea who we're looking at?

Yeah but I'm not going to claim it's for sure going to be Chadwell, Fritz, Sumrall, Lebby, etc. Chadwell is one of the ones on top of the list with mutual interest...got to chase out mutual interest in our job vs interest to get a pay raise though. I know there are reports we have made an offer, we may have but I don't have confirmation of that. Malzhan may be more in play now Ark is off the board but I need to hear more to say he is absolutely up the list. We are still chasing P5 Head coaches as well, still think it's a long shot but after firings / hirings after this weekend that may clear up.
11-20-2023, 06:28 PM
Really Clark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santiago

I wasn't expecting an announcement, but was more assuming a letter of understanding. Do you think that is also pushed out as well?

If we get a LOU prior, it still won't be announced until after their season is over or as much as possible keep it under wraps in deference to that coach, school and his team to finish first.
11-20-2023, 06:30 PM
DownwardDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by basedog

Aggies may have money but doesn?t mean they will get 85 top players in the country. Not everyone wants to go to College Station. Bama says hold my beer. To me it?s a toss up with Florida and TAM. Florida caught lightning in a bottler with Urban. Aggies never have

I mean, they just did it a few years ago. Signed the best recruiting class that's ever been signed by anyone. Y'all remember that? Pissed Saban off. They have the money. They can do it regularly if they want to.
11-20-2023, 06:34 PM
Santiago

Quote:

Originally Posted by Really Clark?

If we get a LOU prior, it still won't be announced until after their season is over or as much as possible keep it under wraps in deference to that coach, school and his team to finish first.

But that is what I originally meant with the post. Assuming the LOU holds up, then Ole Miss dealing with a coach loss next week should not affect us if we have it locked up end of this week.
11-20-2023, 06:36 PM
Really Clark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santiago

But that is what I originally meant with the post. Assuming the LOU holds up, then Ole Miss dealing with a coach loss next week should not affect us if we have it locked up end of this week.

Oh yeah, gotcha. That's true, as long as we get that done first and if the other side is willing to go ahead and sign.
11-20-2023, 06:44 PM
Catfish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yeah but I'm not going to claim it's for sure going to be Chadwell, Fritz, Sumrall, Lebby, etc. Chadwell is one of the ones on top of the list with mutual interest...got to chase out mutual interest in our job vs interest to get a pay raise though. I know there are reports we have made an offer, we may have but I don't have confirmation of that. Malzhan may be more in play now Ark is off the board but I need to hear more to say he is absolutely up the list. We are still chasing P5 Head coaches as well, still think it's a long shot but after firings / hirings after this weekend that may clear up.

Thanks for keeping everyone in the loop.
11-20-2023, 07:49 PM
TrapGame

Quote:

Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yeah but I'm not going to claim it's for sure going to be Chadwell, Fritz, Sumrall, Lebby, etc. Chadwell is one of the ones on top of the list with mutual interest...got to chase out mutual interest in our job vs interest to get a pay raise though. I know there are reports we have made an offer, we may have but I don't have confirmation of that. Malzhan may be more in play now Ark is off the board but I need to hear more to say he is absolutely up the list. We are still chasing P5 Head coaches as well, still think it's a long shot but after firings / hirings after this weekend that may clear up.

RB is saying we have definite interest from two sitting P5 coaches. The speculation is one of them is K State's Kleiman.
11-20-2023, 07:52 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapGame

RB is saying we have definite interest from two sitting P5 coaches. The speculation is one of them is K State's Kleiman.

If this is true, make the hire right now. Search over
11-20-2023, 08:02 PM
TALL DAWG

Lane Train is loading up as we wait to see where his next stop will be
11-20-2023, 08:03 PM
Mjoelner34

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapGame

RB is saying we have definite interest from two sitting P5 coaches. The speculation is one of them is K State's Kleiman.

delete
11-20-2023, 08:09 PM
Santiago

Aggie sites mention Arizona coach, Washington coach, and ....Ryan Day, as three coaches of interest. Lane is way way down their list.
11-20-2023, 08:09 PM
Really Clark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapGame

RB is saying we have definite interest from two sitting P5 coaches. The speculation is one of them is K State's Kleiman.

I haven't heard Klieman as having interest
11-20-2023, 08:12 PM
TrapGame

Quote:

Originally Posted by Really Clark?

I haven't heard Klieman as having interest

Then Rosebowl has better sources. ****
11-20-2023, 08:13 PM
confucius say

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santiago

Aggie sites mention Arizona coach, Washington coach, and ....Ryan Day, as three coaches of interest. Lane is way way down their list.

Ryan day. Haha.
I could see Fisch landing there.
11-20-2023, 08:22 PM
Really Clark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapGame

Then Rosebowl has better sources. ****

Ha. Probably so
11-20-2023, 08:23 PM
Coursesuper

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapGame

Then Rosebowl has better sources. ****

Rosey knows exactly dick. Why does anyone give anything he prints the time of day?
11-20-2023, 08:39 PM
TrapGame

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Rosey knows exactly dick. Why does anyone give anything he prints the time of day?

That's why I finished with these ****.

Nobody knows dick.
11-20-2023, 08:44 PM
CaptainObvious

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrapGame

That's why I finished with these ****.

Nobody knows dick.

I know who it is but I have been sworn to secrecy until the day it is announced.
11-20-2023, 08:57 PM
Catfish

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

I know who it is but I have been sworn to secrecy until the day it is announced.

Bert leaking the name?
11-20-2023, 09:14 PM
Homedawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santiago

I wasn't expecting an announcement, but was more assuming a letter of understanding. Do you think that is also pushed out as well?

Understandings are worthless. Ask Tenn and Dan.
11-20-2023, 09:16 PM
Homedawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Rosey knows exactly dick. Why does anyone give anything he prints the time of day?

But he wil tell you he knew when it was over. And there are people that will have known. But it won't be him. Trust me
11-20-2023, 09:17 PM
Homedawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

I know who it is but I have been sworn to secrecy until the day it is announced.

You might. Not calling you a liar but I'm right w a top 5 booster and he doesn't know who it is ...
11-20-2023, 09:27 PM
KOdawg1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homedawg

But he wil tell you he knew when it was over. And there are people that will have known. But it won't be him. Trust me

Exactly. The dude leaves himself an out with everything he says.

"Coach X has shown interest in being the next coach, but here are 3 reasons why it probably won't happen, but never say never because it might."

That's how he presents nearly everything
11-20-2023, 09:43 PM
lastmajordog

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoDawgz

"But.... but..... but..... we have the Grove!" says every UM homer!

And EVERY TV ANNOUNCER......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-20-2023, 10:23 PM
Jarius

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder

Why are we scared of Lane Kiffin?

If we take care of business we will OWN his ass.

He's already pissed a lot of people within that program off.

He’s about to win 10 games for the 3rd time in 4 years. If I have to explain further why that’s not good for Mississippi State then I don’t know what to say other than you’re just not ever going to get it.
11-21-2023, 07:05 AM
Pancho

I expect A&M to look harder at Kitten if Chadwell chooses to stay at Liberty.
11-21-2023, 09:47 AM
Johnson85

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homedawg

You might. Not calling you a liar but I'm right w a top 5 booster and he doesn't know who it is ...

I would hope by now it is known which boosters can be trusted and which can't. I mean, if you need the money from a booster, you kind of have to fill him in, even if you don't trust him to not repeat what he hears, but you'd hope we have enough trustworthy ones with enough money that we don't have to involve ones that really want to show off what we know. And you'd think most people with enough money to be involved in signing off on buyouts and new commitments wouldn't be worried about showing off that they're in the know, but obviously that's not 100% true at any school.
11-21-2023, 09:56 AM
Johnson85

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Isn't he making something like $9M at OM? I wonder what A&M will have to come up with for him to leave Oxford.

It's going to be expensive, but they can do a lot just by extending his deal. Lane has a deal now that extends beyond 4 years, and it should be enforceable, but there is always the possibility they try to renege on it and claim it was void under Mississippi law. If A&M goes $1M more a year and gives him an 8 year deal, that's going to be a pretty significant difference.

But to make it compelling to leave financially, they are going to have to go right back to Jimbo territory, which they may not want to do after just getting burned.
11-21-2023, 10:27 AM
Homedawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnson85

It's going to be expensive, but they can do a lot just by extending his deal. Lane has a deal now that extends beyond 4 years, and it should be enforceable, but there is always the possibility they try to renege on it and claim it was void under Mississippi law. If A&M goes $1M more a year and gives him an 8 year deal, that's going to be a pretty significant difference.

But to make it compelling to leave financially, they are going to have to go right back to Jimbo territory, which they may not want to do after just getting burned.

It completely legal. Just not the part the state is paying. We have a coach w the same type of contract
11-21-2023, 10:38 AM
DawgFromOxford

Quote:

Originally Posted by State82

And, there is no state income tax in Texas. That can be somewhat substantial when talking about those kind of salaries.

If you go apples to apples, in Mississippi he's making 9 million and paying a 5% state income tax, so he's paying $450,000 to the state of Mississippi. By moving to Texas he essentially get's a 5% pay raise by getting to keep that $450,000.
11-21-2023, 10:50 AM
Really Clark?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

If you go apples to apples, in Mississippi he's making 9 million and paying a 5% state income tax, so he's paying $450,000 to the state of Mississippi. By moving to Texas he essentially get's a 5% pay raise by getting to keep that $450,000.

You have to adjust for property taxes, sales taxes and cost of living in Texas as well. That's not a $450,000 raise after adjustments.

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:17 AM.