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10-08-2023, 04:59 PM
RockyDog

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

The last paragraph says a lot.

Anyone saying we are better at any part of this after Leach is blatantly lying, stirring the pot. But then these are the same people that got what they wanted with the good ol boys

We may not be better at offense but also Leach would not be here regardless. To think that you could just hand over his offense to a scrub like Spurrier and not miss a beat is delusional. We saw what it could be, it was named the Reliaquesf Bowl, probably the most boring bowl of last season.
10-08-2023, 05:41 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen

1. It's fun having a girlfriend that is into football. However if she is an SEC fan, and when the new wears off, it is a pain in the ass trying to watch two teams. Been there......

Tell me about it. Mine is a rebelbearshark. The good news is, she is a bigger basketball fan which I don't really give a rat's ass about but I do enjoy shoveling food in their basketball club level.
10-08-2023, 06:26 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by RockyDog

We may not be better at offense but also Leach would not be here regardless. To think that you could just hand over his offense to a scrub like Spurrier and not miss a beat is delusional. We saw what it could be, it was named the Reliaquesf Bowl, probably the most boring bowl of last season.

Spurrier was never going to get it even if Leach retired and hand picked it
10-08-2023, 06:48 PM
FISHDAWG

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The offense is just as good as last years.

And every week you bitched about last year's offense... what changed your mind ?
10-08-2023, 06:53 PM
sandjunky

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The offense is just as good as last years.

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Originally Posted by FISHDAWG

And every week you bitched about last year's offense... what changed your mind ?

Leach threw the ball too much / it?s MS and it?s Wing T till death by gawd
10-08-2023, 08:02 PM
coachnorm

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Congress is already looking at it. AD's and University presidents are lobbying congress hard for a change. It's coming. Just gotta ride the storm. There will be a cap that evens the playing field and transfer rules will change again.

When you say Congress is looking into it, do you mean the body of lawmakers or a select group? I only hear about some congresspersons meeting with certain ADs. Could you identify the amounts of participants looking into NIL issues?
10-08-2023, 08:21 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by FISHDAWG

And every week you bitched about last year's offense... what changed your mind ?

I hated watching 7 on 7 passing dump offs to a RB play after play. Woody Marks is our all-time leading receiver now. Thats ridiculous
10-08-2023, 08:33 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The offense is just as good as last years.

This is an objectively false statement. Last year's offense was 44th nationally in FPI. Halfway through this year, we're sitting at #72. We'll see if that gets any better between now and Thanksgiving, but I doubt it improves 30 slots.
10-08-2023, 08:42 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

And here is the issue. It did not have to be that way.

We get it. At what point t will you 3 or 4 just stfu and move on. It's beyond miserable.
10-08-2023, 08:43 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This is an objectively false statement. Last year's offense was 44th nationally in FPI. Halfway through this year, we're sitting at #72. We'll see if that gets any better between now and Thanksgiving, but I doubt it improves 30 slots.

Well, no its not. Last year's offense scored 28.6 PPG without the ST and Defensive TD's added in

So far- this team scores 30 PPG

Thats just straight facts and not some made up FPI bullshit.
10-08-2023, 08:44 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

This is an objectively false statement. Last year's offense was 44th nationally in FPI. Halfway through this year, we're sitting at #72. We'll see if that gets any better between now and Thanksgiving, but I doubt it improves 30 slots.

Scoring, he is always referencing scoring. You have been on here long enough that his main stat guideline is scoring. He is not wrong in that sense but he is only concerned about the scoreboard.
10-08-2023, 08:45 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

We get it. At what point t will you 3 or 4 just stfu and move on. It's beyond miserable.

It's been a year of this. Well at least under this name.
10-08-2023, 08:45 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Spurrier was never going to get it even if Leach retired and hand picked it

Had I been arnett I would have told the world, spurrier was the idiot who callled the timeout in the bowl game. Arnett didnt. Which was noble of him. And spurrier acted a dick. Glad that dude is gone. Prick.
10-08-2023, 08:46 PM
RezDog7

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

No the OC did not do his job. We are in the SEC they are a friggin MAC team. That game should have been over in the first half. You let the starting QB win it and sub in, not play around with your food like we are a cat toying with a mouse!

If this was TAMU struggling with a MAC, you would be honest. But it's your bestie....

Tell me you don't understand football without telling me you don't understand football.
10-08-2023, 08:48 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Had I been arnett I would have told the world, spurrier was the idiot who callled the timeout in the bowl game. Arnett didnt. Which was noble of him. And spurrier acted a dick. Glad that dude is gone. Prick.

He's not wrong^^^
10-08-2023, 08:49 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Scoring, he is always referencing scoring. You have been on here long enough that his main stat guideline is scoring. He is not wrong in that sense but he is only concerned about the scoreboard.

Scoring is all that matters. The Scoreboard. End of story
10-08-2023, 09:04 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Scoring is all that matters. The Scoreboard. End of story

Hey I get it and you are right. AR cultist, last year was good new offense bad...scoring almost identical so far. Hypocritical
10-08-2023, 09:11 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

Leach threw the ball too much / it?s MS and it?s Wing T till death by gawd

You have to forgive these Mississippi high school football coaches. They are still about 35 years behind the rest of football.

There are a few that actually run something modern, but this may be the only state where you still see wing T based systems at the high school level.
10-08-2023, 09:12 PM
BigDawg81

Offense is fine. Statistically, it?s close to what Lech did last year. I think it 1.5 point difference and a 15 yard difference. Barbay actually scored 17 on Alabama. Leach scored only 15 points in all 3 of the games combined. It?s only year 1 in Barbay?s offense.
10-08-2023, 09:15 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by KB21

You have to forgive these Mississippi high school football coaches. They are still about 35 years behind the rest of football.

There are a few that actually run something modern, but this may be the only state where you still see wing T based systems at the high school level.

There are some 5A's in Louisiana still running the wing-T
10-08-2023, 09:16 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by KB21

You have to forgive these Mississippi high school football coaches. They are still about 35 years behind the rest of football.

There are a few that actually run something modern, but this may be the only state where you still see wing T based systems at the high school level.

Frisco, TX won the 2022 state championship in 5A running the Wing T. It's run all over the country, but that contradicts your talking points.
10-08-2023, 09:17 PM
KB21

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

Offense is fine. Statistically, it?s close to what Lech did last year. I think it 1.5 point difference and a 15 yard difference. Barbay actually scored 17 on Alabama. Leach scored only 15 points in all 3 of the games combined. It?s only year 1 in Barbay?s offense.

If we were playing FCS and MAC teams all the time, it would be an average offense for those levels. The problem is the play caller is just so bad at actually sequencing his plays that he renders the offense ineffective.
10-08-2023, 09:21 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by KB21

If we were playing FCS and MAC teams all the time, it would be an average offense for those levels. The problem is the play caller is just so bad at actually sequencing his plays that he renders the offense ineffective.

30 PPG
10-09-2023, 03:45 AM
sandjunky

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Originally Posted by Coach34

30 PPG

It?s actually 29 points per game - 26.6 if you take out the FCS opponent
10-09-2023, 03:49 AM
sandjunky

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Well, no its not. Last year's offense scored 28.6 PPG without the ST and Defensive TD's added in

So far- this team scores 30 PPG

Thats just straight facts and not some made up FPI bullshit.

Straight facts and all - make sure you?re taking out ST score for this year - which you didn?t
10-09-2023, 05:58 AM
msudawg1200

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Originally Posted by Coach34

30 PPG

Yeah, and after 6 games last year we were averaging 38 PPG.
10-09-2023, 06:33 AM
sandjunky

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

Yeah, and after 6 games last year we were averaging 38 PPG.

Tougher opponents last year too

Traded
Memphis for SELA
Bowling Green for W Michigan
10-09-2023, 06:44 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

It?s actually 29 points per game - 26.6 if you take out the FCS opponent

Same as last season
10-09-2023, 08:03 AM
Santiago

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Spurrier was never going to get it even if Leach retired and hand picked it

I heard that too.
In your opinion, who would have been a HC candidate off the offensive side? I was ok with Arnett if he made minimum changes only, and tried to slowly acclimate to being the HC. Now in hindsight I wonder who else would have been an option.
10-09-2023, 08:15 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by Santiago

I heard that too.
In your opinion, who would have been a HC candidate off the offensive side? I was ok with Arnett if he made minimum changes only, and tried to slowly acclimate to being the HC. Now in hindsight I wonder who else would have been an option.

No one, yet. Drew will be there soon, but not yet.
10-09-2023, 08:23 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by sandjunky

It?s actually 29 points per game - 26.6 if you take out the FCS opponent

http://cfbstats.com/2023/leader/911/...09/sort01.html

30.2
10-09-2023, 08:24 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Santiago

I heard that too.
In your opinion, who would have been a HC candidate off the offensive side? I was ok with Arnett if he made minimum changes only, and tried to slowly acclimate to being the HC. Now in hindsight I wonder who else would have been an option.

Zach was by far the closest to HC on the previous staff. No one on the offensive side. Drew, we will see in 5 years how he does. He's bright.
10-09-2023, 08:24 AM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by msudawg1200

Yeah, and after 6 games last year we were averaging 38 PPG.

We are transitioning on offense this year also. Leach was in Y3
10-09-2023, 08:51 AM
was21

What else can be true? Spot on
10-09-2023, 09:04 AM
Santiago

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We are transitioning on offense this year also. Leach was in Y3

I say he was basically year 2, with the lack of a spring in Covid year, and short season. He had 2 recruiting cycles for talent at a school that had never been known for prolific passing. He was signing and recruiting more mobile QBs.
Our staff made the decision to transition yet again in an offense, when so much of the offense was returning.
I would think if we were running the previous system, with some running added, that we are producing more with the known offense.

edit: we could have been using those TE scholarships for defensive help instead.
10-09-2023, 09:19 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Same as last season

No it isn't. I gave you the link that took out the FCS team we played in 2022 and 2023. In FBS, we are less than last year
10-09-2023, 09:21 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

http://cfbstats.com/2023/leader/911/...09/sort01.html

30.2

That's your way of masking it.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college...ate=2023-10-10

29.6 last year in FBS play with a tougher schedule and 26.6 this season. I get that you NEED to add in the FCS to prop up this staff.
10-09-2023, 09:24 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

No it isn't. I gave you the link that took out the FCS team we played in 2022 and 2023. In FBS, we are less than last year

Yes it is and I even showed you the numbers when you only look at offensive scoring. 26.75 last year 26.6 this year. Almost identical.
10-09-2023, 09:24 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Santiago

I say he was basically year 2, with the lack of a spring in Covid year, and short season. He had 2 recruiting cycles for talent at a school that had never been known for prolific passing. He was signing and recruiting more mobile QBs.
Our staff made the decision to transition yet again in an offense, when so much of the offense was returning.
I would think if we were running the previous system, with some running added, that we are producing more with the known offense.

edit: we could have been using those TE scholarships for defensive help instead.

I posted on this when somebody stated that Leach was taking defensive scholarships to load up on WRs. It was totally false! Leach had less WRs vs the WR /TE room the year before.

You want to know why the defense is bad, because our new HC started signing less DLs
10-09-2023, 09:25 AM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yes it is and I even showed you the numbers when you only look at offensive scoring. 26.75 last year 26.6 this year. Almost identical.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college...ate=2023-10-10

No it isn't. You only get there by picking and choosing what to count.

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