Remember in the offseason when people said that Will didn't have to be Superman in this offense?
LOL.
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Remember in the offseason when people said that Will didn't have to be Superman in this offense?
LOL.
There are a lot of people who were wrong about this offense. I?m not one of them, but there are a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah, this thread seems like a bit of misdirection... Same check downs we've seen for the last 3 years, only this year we can't even seem to complete a screen pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBDawg601
Players have had months and countless reps to get the offense down. Topic should have been brought up prior to the season if it were an issue. Only comes out when QB1 is playing like he should be replaced.
Don’t dislocate your shoulder with that pat on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
The simple fact is your boy still sucks. Doesn’t really matter what offense he is running. I’ve seen 6th grade flag footballers with bigger arms.
Lol repQuote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
Hard for a Mississippi educated player to learn that.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
No college player is learning that bullshit. They are so limited in practice and few are driven beyond their innate ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
Sometimes, being right all the time is a curse.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
The play calling may be difficult for the qb but everyone else in the huddle just needs to hear the formation, the play, OL protection and cadence.
We don’t need him to be Superman we need him to just be competent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I’m from Alabama and I can’t learn that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
Finally, thanks for pointing out that will can?t handle it and the change is a different qb.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I'm sorry but this is BS. App state didn't have trouble with the terminology. We have a senior QB that has never had to read defenses. Mike ran what he ran regardless of the defense.
It is hard to believe that our players are to dumb to learn an offense that western Michigan and app state ran well. If that?s the case then we really are screwed because we need a whole new roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
This reeks of a built in excuse for will before another upcoming terrible game by him. It seems like Barbay so t allow him to check out to a dump pass. What if Barbay has a downfield explosive play called and will is trying to Check to a swing pass? I?d be pissed too if I was Barbay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
WinnerQuote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Its hilarious that somebody would say I am just making an excuse for one player on the team but then they turn around and use it as an excuse to blame him.
If you think I care enough to come on here and make up stuff you couldnt be more wrong. It is what it is. Just because you dont like it and are blinded by your obsession of hating one kid for all of your life?s problems, doesnt mean it?s not true.
Anyone on here who knows anything will stand by it if you dont believe me. Difference is, I could care less if you do or dont
ManQuote:
Originally Posted by justwin
Just because you don't like it and are blinded by your odsession....Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
You always quote and respond to people making a meh / easy to beat take in the same thread as someone else making a valid and great point against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Nut up or run away. Don't half ass something. **** up full speed or don't **** up.
Rogers has always had to read defenses. Once the play was called by Leach it was up to Rogers to change it based on what he saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
No matter how you look at it, our coaching is very bad!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BuckyIsAB**** again.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I?d Arnett isn?t back we don?t have a shit stain chance at anything
I dont see any valid or great points. Im sorry my message board habits upset youQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Barbay had a lot more oversight at App State and they had been running a similar scheme for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Receivers are missing routes, OL is missing assignments and not holding blocks, RBs can't block. It's bad all around, but the vet qb needs the ball out of his hands quicker to build confidence. The entire offense is off balance. Will needs to play more inspired football. If he doesn't put the offense on his back then no one will get better.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Then the OC needs to call faster developing plays. Stop the 12 personnel. use more wrs because that's where our talent is. Put Thomas, Creed in there more along with Mosely. Not an true freshman OT at TE.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
We allowed 1 sack last year in 24 attempts. We are allowing 1 in every 10 now.
This is true. Their offense looks the same without Barbay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
So he's not the master mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Great!
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Dang Creed, Tulu, Thomas, Robinson, Walley, in an Air Raid with just some running plays to keep it honest. Add future more mobile QBs to run basically 6 yards on any play.
@ Bucky here's one you ignored. Amongst several others across other threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Point kinda stands, you're blinded by bias and literally refuse to see where Will has a large share of blame too.
Great players succeed in any system.
Good players make the most of bad systems.
System players can only survive in their specific system or they flounder.
I mean our new ground game is fine. So let's blend the 2 and come up with something new!Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
No they don't. That's so not true at most positions in football. The success of the RB depends on an OL capable of blocking. They don't do well and that RB is NOT going to succeed. A QB's success relies on several major factors. Pass protection (we went from 1 sack out of 24 Attempts to 1 in 10), WRs and TEs running the proper route, and them making a catch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
You are putting all things equal, and it's not. Now if all things were equal and the OL was blocking and the WRs understood the route, we would not be having a conversation at all. This system is broken because we hired a guy who said some right things to Arnett and not based on his ability. That's evident in his install of this offense with a vet team who is scratching their heads wonder what they are suppose to be doing.
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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
That’s a load of crock and you know it. It has been said by everyone who watches football and knows football that if a team is bad it is on the QB to raise the bar of the play on the field.
Yeah and they say all we need is a mobile QB that can make yards when he is flushed. I'm currently watching 2 mobile QBs for Auburn take 6 sacks so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
Thorne is not really mobile, much less close to Wright in dual threat category.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Robby Ashford is faster than Wright and how many sacks did he take? When the OL is trash, no matter who you put back there, the results will be similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Yep. And it was one of my huge concerns with hiring Barbay. App State's coach used to be the Co-OC there and had been involved for years there on offense across multiple coaching staffs. Barbay was under McElwain before that and I have no doubt McElwain was involved in the offense at CMU as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Yeah not all players and systems are the same. But what does this have to do with my point that it is on the QB to raise the standard. You are deflecting.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Thee as t is really problematic and concerningQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State