He was replaced exceptionally easily and there will be zero noticeable difference in our talent at tailback. Lee is a very solid tailback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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He was replaced exceptionally easily and there will be zero noticeable difference in our talent at tailback. Lee is a very solid tailback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It's only a couple days in, but it looks like Lee and Pittman are 2 and 3 behind Marks. Price, who I expected to have a good year, is currently 4th. Again, it's only been 1 day in pads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
Not with this OL. We're not running over lsu and Aggie. Prob not KY or auburn either. Wait and see on OM, Ark, and USCeQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Crazy considering Price had the game winning play against Illinois.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
And again I say bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Will we have the best ground game in the league? No, it will be serviceable w/ some flashes of above average play. But, this fixation that we'll look like the Keystone Cops on the OL is just unfounded.
Agreed. Don't see this line falling on its face. Should be a good group up front and will have CZA on their tails reminding them every game. Don't know if CZA will fold the chairs if they don't perform.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
I didn't say keystone cops. I said we won't be able to run over good defenses with this OL. Serviceable won't be near good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
You listed just about every damn SEC team we are playing. If you think we can't run the ball on any SEC defense we face this season then - YES, YOU ARE - saying we will be the Keystone Cops on the OL. Hell, might as well say we can't run on Arizona either.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
My definition of serviceable is "average" or slightly above.
We will be fine.
I said 5 of the 8. I excluded OM, ark, and usce and said time will tell. I said we won't run over Bama, lsu, or Aggie. We won't. And prob not ky or auburn.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
An average OL won't run over Bama, lsu, or Aggie and probably not auburn or KY. That's all I said. I think everyone could agree on that.
I actually think the OL will be pretty good. Alot of the guys that will start werent even Leach recruits. They were recruited to be physical. We have an old, veteran OL by college standards. They should be above average and are coached by a pretty good coach as well.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I do not understand why people aren't seeing this.
Man, if the OL is as bad as you think it's gonna be we ain't winning more than 6 games and we'll be lucky to win 6. I just don't see that. You're under selling this OL big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Hey Trap, I think we are all underselling this OLine, in fact I think they will be the surprise group this year barring injuries and throw in some strong TE blocking will give us a 200 yd average run team.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Agreed. And as I type this I'm watching some post practice interviews and a couple of players are talking about how Barbay has kept some of the familiar Air Raid concepts but he has put in a solid ground game to go with it. Barbay may be doing a little Frankenstein mash-up with some Air Raid and his offense. That would be absolute genius if he pulls it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs
Leach was an exception to the rule of great coaches design their system to the players, not the players to the system. Barbay designing an offense tailored to our strengths is exactly what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Im full wool and ready to say we're gonna win the SECW and go 12-0. Lots to be excited about. Our OL is as experienced as it has been ever. Even moreso than 2014. We've got the ingredients. Only ? I have is defensive secondary. If we don't absolutely shit the bed like a grantham defense when it comes to backend secondary, then we can be very, very good.
Lol. The games we actually tried to run the ball last year we had no problem. Those were our best offensive games. Imagine this season with a very innovative and balanced offense. Did we lose our entire offensive line to the NFL?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Nah. I'm saying 8-4.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
We have four that should be automatic.
We lose to Bama.
4-1.
The other 7 could go either way but I think we probably get 3 or 4 of them, especially if we win on the OL vs ark, OM, and usce like I believe we can.
When have we EVER not been able to run the ball? Even with Croom we ran the ball. This team ran the ball successfully last year whenever Will would check into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I think we should be able to run against OM, ark, and usce.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I don't think we will be able to line up and run over Bama, lsu, or Aggie.
I think we will be able to run it some but struggle against ky and auburn.
We ran for 6 yards per carry against TAM last year in the worse running offensive scheme and philosophy you could have. I think we can squeeze a few yards against them this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Ridiculous, right? We ran for 146 on mighty A&M last year with 2 running plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
On most of the defenses we will face it will only take the OL doing their jobs with a TE hitting his block to spring Woody for a 20 yard gash. And most defenses won't be able to arm tackle Woody.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
I think people have become so blinded by how inept we were at running the ball the first 2 years of Leach.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
If we "only" average 150 yards per game, that is 1800 yards rushing which is STILL below average for an SEC team. However, IF we can complement that with a 3000-3500 yard passing season from WR, then that is top 40 production. MSU fans have become so negative that they don't believe we can ever field a team that is capable of both running and passing. People act like it has to be one or the other. Meanwhile, over 40 teams last year put up 3000 pass/2000 rush yard seasons.
Arkansas and Mississippi both had 3000/3000 seasons playing the same mighty opponents that some say can't be run on.
We will see. They were last on the league in run defense last year. Running on them was like running on ark. Easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
They are stacked with supposed nfl guys up front now who are older and we will be on the road. FPI likes their run defense. Of course jimbo can score anything up, so we will see.
Ark and OM both had running qb. Dart and Jefferson both were run threats and ran for over 600 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
Unless we go alot of wildcat or wright, we don't.
Oh, so now it's not the OL it's that we don't have a running QB?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Having a running qb makes the OL job much easier, yes. Especially guys who can run and throw. If we had dart or Jefferson or Daniels etc... I would feel much better about our run game. Is that even a debatable point?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
No, you're just making it seem like our OL can't work without a running QB. And some of those running threats you mentioned, our defense shut down.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
App State had 3000 pass/2400 rush and got 116 rushing from their QB. If we get a couple hundred yards on the season from Tulu and other receivers running end arounds, then that is bonus yards that help the run game. Maybe Wright can contribute 100 or 2. Just because WR doesn't run doesn't mean our offense is going to suck against anybody with a pulse.
We don't have to run Don Mullins offense to move the ball.
And if we had dart or Jefferson or Daniels etc... I would feel a little worse about our passing game.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I hear there's a video going round with Will under center, hitting a TE out of play action for a TD.
Because most people don't understand the trenches my manQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
KB has left the chat...Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
It was actually 3 TE's. Pass to Harmon off the right side, while Goede and Spivey are in pass pro in a bunch tight to the left.
Play action is going to make our offense so much better. So glad I dont have to watch that garbage we were running anymore
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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
Hey, Will isn?t supposed to be able to take a snap from center or turn his back to the defense m. Someone go tell Cole Cublic!!! 🙄🙄🙄
I agree completely. No more drop into coverage immediately when the ball is snapped.