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Can Young this year, Crumedy next year, Trevion Williams and Denkins the next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
The point is, you shouldn?t be losing the top MS DL to Ole Miss when we are the ones developing guys into the league. I would?ve loved to see what Benito Jones would have done here..
turner being back on staff will be a help in this area. The rest of the incentive will have to be NIL.
Joined two months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
Most posts disparage State athletics and the football team.
Someone call the enforcer, I smell fish out of water.
Keep an eye out on Michael Johnson from South Panola. listed as an Athlete was offered last week and took a visit may be a package deal with Julius Pope 4 star also from South Panola.
Not disparaging the team at all. Just being truthful. We had 2 guys drafted in the top 2 rounds in the last 7 drafts and that dude was trying to say we were a DL pipeline. Just pointed out that the actual top tier programs in the SEC would probably disagree with the thought of MSU being a DL pipeline, thats all. I didn't realize that this was Jean Swindoll sunshine pumper land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
His IP says tenn......rocky top hillbilly. get lost bitchQuote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
We have some insanely soft fans who will try to crucify you for having any sort of slightly differentiating opinion. Dont let them get to youQuote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
DEDawg speaketh mucho truth
You're an idiot if you don't think State is a top 10 or better DL School.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
Your arbitrary "statistic" is whack as it is. You went and found the way to try to make it sound as absolutely bad as you can. You said last 7 years so that way you could include this year already, to make it sound worse and cutoff when Chris Jones was drafted. If you say last 7 DRAFTS you have to include him. You say last 8 drafts and you have to say Preston Smith.
You also act like State players don't get criminally under-drafted. We've had guys like Denico Autry make a whole career after being undrafted. If you go and pull up DLine from every school from the last 15 years, you're hard pressed to name 5 DLines better than Mississippi State. I choose 15 as my number because it's what kids committing / transferring will have in their memory and cuts out virtually no one still in the league.
We may not be the best, but to try to tear us down like our DLine isn't in that top tier with Clemson, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State just comes across as you either A. wanting to be right or B. being a dishonest party.
Couple that with every other post you've made and you're not here to be a Dawg, you're here to stir shit and "right".
News flash, RockyReb
Msstate7: We have got to steal Hubbard
RockyDog: Not gonna happen. He wants to play n the Pavilion
You were wrong here and wrong in this conversation. Leave this board. You and KB and a few others that popped up in the January bannings are quite insufferable. We remove Coach34 and 10 more worse versions pop up.
removed 34?
So C34 died or something? What happened there?
Anyone got any recruiting rumors or news to get this thread back on track?
nope. we all hiding to avoid the "tater wrath"
The Waller kid from Picayune just got bumped to a 5 star by 247, and is now their 22nd ranked player in the nation. Bama effect? I notice we're not in his top 5, but 4 blue bloods and Ole Miss are. I assume he is an OM fan who just listed them to be nice and is going to go to Bama or Georgia? Anybody got the scoop?
https://247sports.com/Player/Jamonta-Waller-46137106/
I heard we are after a high end WR from the South but CZA is still waiting on approval from KB before formally offering. He left a voicemail on KBs phone but he still hasn’t gotten from underneath Kilff Kingsburys desk yet to respond.
Sucks we are never in the market for these types of guys anymore. Welcome to NIL I guess ughQuote:
Originally Posted by PMDawg
We're basically blocked in Picayune. We 17d things up so bad they barely even acknowledge we exist.
We'll no get kids from there anytime soon. And let's be honest, this staff is behind with all the change and new system/coaches. We look like we're recruiting better out of state than instate and that's ok, except the class is loaded in MS.
I was able to talk to someone I know down that way who should definitely know - they claim Waller has always wanted to play for Ole Miss, but Alabama is making it a difficult decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
4* DL Jeff Rush from the Coast commits to OM. They are also predicted to land the Beavers kid from Bay Springs and are in the top 5 for the #1 player in the state, Waller. This isn?t good at all-the whole reason we brought in some of the guys we did was ?they know the state and have the connections.? Really hope we can turn it on here soon. We shouldn?t be losing MS defensive kids to Ole Miss.
I am fine with us being good out of state, what I don?t like is people pounding how solid this staff is for MS recruiting and that?s why we had to bring in a Will Friend, Bumphis, and Turner because of their ties to the state and we seem, in my opinion, to be getting cleaned in a loaded MS class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don't care where the talent is from just bring in the best players.
Are we just going to be out of it with coast players? Ole miss killing us in state right now
Shut the 17 up Jean. In now way did I tear us down. You are a fool. I simply said we aren?t DL U as the first poster stated. Stop trying to be internet badass and read. I backed up what I said. We have some NICE players in the league like Smith, Sweat, Autry etc to go along with our 3 studs. But what I said is accurate. We haven?t had a first rounder since Simmons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Simply put you can?t call yourself DL u when you aren?t consistently putting in first rounders like several other teams in the conference are doing. That is in NO WAY a slight to MSU. It is the truth. Sorry you can?t handle it Tater Swindoll
So let me help you fellas out that are freaking out atm:
We have a first time HC (albeit, a proven DC) with a near complete turnover of a staff, particularly the offensive staff. Sure we brought in some guys who have ties within the state, and some who have a strong proven track record as coaches, even at MSU.
However, these guys have been on staff together for what, 2-3 months, and you are all freaking out because we didn?t some of the top in-state guys to commit immediately?
Give them some time. They?ve only had a few weeks since they?ve even been able to officially contact recruits. Now, if we are in this boat come late October/November, we can start wondering some out loud
Beavers is not high on om at all. Don't count on him going there. He likes us but may go out of state. We'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Bro stoppppp beating the drum jfc its so tiresome. Its a recruiting, nobody is freaking out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Westdawg
Its conversation.
Last 15 years, First round DL and their Pro BowlsQuote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
Alabama - 4 players with 6 combined Pro Bowls.
Mississippi State - 3 players with 8 combined Pro Bowls. (Fun fact, Mississippi State has had two DL First round picks selected more recently than Alabama and Clemson's last first round DL)
Clemson - 5 players with 2 combined Pro Bowls.
Georgia - 3 players with 0 combined Pro Bowls. All this past year.
Ohio State - 4 players with 14 combined Pro Bowls.
Again my point is you're comparing us to a fairy tale and trying to tear us down based on that. Instead look at the actual stats. State is in the upper Echelon. Bama and Clemson haven't had a first round DL since Simmons either bud.
Those look like pretty good facts to me. Thanks for posting that, Tater! Have some rep!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Tater again.
Thanks man. Idk what school this guy seems to be thinking of that has a first round DL every year. He's living in la-la land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Mm, you might want to re-read this thread. There?s a couple that need a high dose prescription for anxiety already and it?s not even summer. Most heads in the thread are calm - concerned but calm.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
I only get recruiting info from you guys or free articles on 24/7. I know it is somewhat early and we have several new coaches/administration people on board, but looking at our top 40 targets on 24/7 is somewhat concerning if their info is accurate. Out of our Top 40, 2 have committed to us, 1 (a MS QB) is committed to aTm, 3 are warm to us and the vast remainder are cool. Anyone got any positive insight that can be shared at this time? Thanks.
Recruiting rankings mean dogshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
We've consistently outperformed our talent in the SEC especially on defense across 10+ DCs.
I proved we're upper echelon DLU so bad that RockyReb won't comment on this thread until we hit the next page (so he thinks everyone will forget)
Our best players have been guys who commit to us as 2 and 3 stars.
We're Egg Bowl Champions
Your points are valid. However we have been sold on "this group of coaches is the best recruiting staff at MSU ever!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Westdawg
And it seems like we're behind in every player.
If Beavers isn't a take for AL, I think we get him. That's a big IF.
I think we can pull the OG guys and Travis. There's going to be a lot of back and forth this time with all the talent instate.
We didn't really push for Rush. We know Picayune ain't happening. We know Franklin goes OOS. The rest? We'll see. It's a strong defense year.
I hope we can do a little better than that in-state. We are a school that relies on in-state talent to win and a year like this year comes around about once every 7-8 years and I really do hope we can do better than what you are saying. The fact that we can't do well in Picayune just blows me away. We have a strong alumni presence in that town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yeah I agree with this based on what I've been hearing especially on beavers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I feel like we will get Hibbler from Holmes County, Daniels from West Poinyt, Eachols from Houston, Moore from Oak Grove, Travis from Grenada, Broomfield from Clarksdale, Woodland from Oak Grove, and Petty from Starkville. I think we might flip Maddox from Oak Grove.
The oak grove QB is not a SEC player. Dont see it at all.
Petty is 10x better than the OG kid
Not as a QB. Maybe as an athlete.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****