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12-06-2022, 05:18 PM
AlSwearengen

All of this NIL/Portal bullshit is just that. Bullshit. They should give every player on the team the same wage and a scholarship. Maybe $25,000 per year.

But, politicians and judges have screwed this up just like they do everything else.
12-06-2022, 05:20 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

As of right now both will be back. It could always change but I believe from what I've heard they'll both be back next year.

I hope you're right, but honestly I'll be surprised if that's the case. Hope I'm wrong.
12-06-2022, 05:39 PM
PGHBulldogBG

I love Miss State football and basketball, but I would not spend money on traveling to a bowl game outside a NY6 which will now be a playoff bowl game because of this portal. If we make the playoffs I will certainly spend the money. I would go to SEC champ game too if we ever make that. Basketball I would spend money if we make sweet 16 on or SEC championship game if we are a top seed and it looks reasonable we can go. Otherwise I live too far away to travel to a lower tier bowl etc. I might go to Omaha if we make the title again, just too much COVID stuff at the time 2 years ago with my wife being in healthcare.
12-06-2022, 05:48 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by confucius say

I hope you're right, but honestly I'll be surprised if that's the case. Hope I'm wrong.

In this era of free agency nothings a given but this is coming from the players themselves, that they plan on coming back, but once again nothings a 100% anymore. If one leaves I would expect it to be marks. Dillon is a homeboy and wants to be close to home.
12-06-2022, 06:15 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

In this era of free agency nothings a given but this is coming from the players themselves, that they plan on coming back, but once again nothings a 100% anymore. If one leaves I would expect it to be marks. Dillon is a homeboy and wants to be close to home.

Dillon is a leader too it seems. He is one of my favorite dawgs
12-06-2022, 06:23 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Dillon is a leader too it seems. He is one of my favorite dawgs

Yep. Him and Woody have put their bodies on the line for 3 years with little fanfare. They deserve a lot of credit for their willingness to do that. Miss having that dawg from other key positions.
12-06-2022, 06:27 PM
William Tecumsah Sherman

Woody and DJ are tough SOBs
12-06-2022, 06:39 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Like they're not going to get tackled running the ball 15-20 times for someone else?

True but tackled and blown up are two different things. We blow up more RB on swing pass than anyone.
12-06-2022, 06:53 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

In this era of free agency nothings a given but this is coming from the players themselves, that they plan on coming back, but once again nothings a 100% anymore. If one leaves I would expect it to be marks. Dillon is a homeboy and wants to be close to home.

Good to hear. I was worried DJ was the bigger concern from word on the street
12-06-2022, 07:05 PM
State82

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Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman

Woody and DJ are tough SOBs

Yes they are. Much tougher than most. And they should be rewarded as such.
12-06-2022, 07:09 PM
State82

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Originally Posted by AlSwearengen

But, politicians and judges have screwed this up just like they do everything else.

17ing lawyers.
12-06-2022, 07:10 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We can and we can't. The burden on our staff is too much with the portal business added to it. Getting guys is a lot easier than replacing production. Now, if we had money to burn and a slightly better brand name it might be manageable looking ahead, but this isn't going to work. That's my opinion.

It's like we have to recruit players that can start for us, and win for us, but aren't good enough for anyone else to want. That's the insanity we are dealing with.

Depends on the player as well. I think we can replace RaRa for example. I also think we can get someone as good as Duncan.
12-06-2022, 07:17 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Depends on the player as well. I think we can replace RaRa for example. I also think we can get someone as good as Duncan.

Quick playing time at safety might help us in our recruiting of Smith also.
12-06-2022, 07:20 PM
BuckyIsAB****

Neither are going to the portal. One may go to the draft. And he has valid reasons for it.

The Qb that yall wanna blame it on his the sole reason they get the carries they get. Which was more than ever this year btw. He calls them. Who would want to play in an offense that you get more touches than any other position combined? What a bad offense for a RB.
12-06-2022, 07:25 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Dillon is a leader too it seems. He is one of my favorite dawgs

Same here! DJ and Woody are both tough as nails and have earned respect. They've been ballers!
12-06-2022, 08:12 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Neither are going to the portal. One may go to the draft. And he has valid reasons for it.

The Qb that yall wanna blame it on his the sole reason they get the carries they get. Which was more than ever this year btw. He calls them. Who would want to play in an offense that you get more touches than any other position combined? What a bad offense for a RB.

Man you have got to come on here with takes not associated with Will. This thread has nothing to do with him.
Those two running backs get blown up more than any in the country due to an OLB waiting to gobble them up as soon as they catch it. Teams actually defend in a way where they know that the ball is coming to them on dump offs and swing passes. You are a coach / I'm sure you already know.
12-06-2022, 08:21 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Man you have got to come on here with takes not associated with Will. This thread has nothing to do with him.
Those two running backs get blown up more than any in the country due to an OLB waiting to gobble them up as soon as they catch it. Teams actually defend in a way where they know that the ball is coming to them on dump offs and swing passes. You are a coach / I'm sure you already know.

They get tackled. Its part of the job. Im not defending anyone its just facts. They also break those tackles and make them miss.. So that has absolutely nothing to do with why one of them is going to the draft. They dont get blown up more than any in the country. They do however get the ball more in this offense than most offenses in the country. So whatever it was about them leaving bc of the offense is more message board wishes just like Leach retiring bc of SEC defenses and his health
12-06-2022, 08:29 PM
Goldendawg

I watch very few NFL games except Dak and Dallas and MNF. How many NFL O's are heavily run based today outside of TN with Henry and Dallas with Zeke who needs to go and Pollard? Most games I watch QB's are throwing about 50 or so times. With pass protection duties at times, I could see our O getting backs ready for the NFL, (except for that all too often getting blown up in the flats play*). Hail State!
12-06-2022, 08:40 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

They get tackled. Its part of the job. Im not defending anyone its just facts. They also break those tackles and make them miss.. So that has absolutely nothing to do with why one of them is going to the draft. They dont get blown up more than any in the country. They do however get the ball more in this offense than most offenses in the country. So whatever it was about them leaving bc of the offense is more message board wishes just like Leach retiring bc of SEC defenses and his health

Can you point to Leach's success with RB's at the next level? I'm not seeing much. Maybe in your obsession with never blaming golden boy and Leach you can describe all the success Leach has had with his RB's.

You've never dealt in facts. You always bring your emotions into this cause of your attachment to Will and Leach. You're better off staying out of these convos for you health.
12-06-2022, 08:43 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Can you point to Leach's success with RB's at the next level? I'm not seeing much. Maybe in your obsession with never blaming golden boy and Leach you can describe all the success Leach has had with his RB's.

You've never dealt in facts. You always bring your emotions into this cause of your attachment to Will and Leach. You're better off staying out of these convos for you health.

Dude. Marks is going to have more touches than any player in school history. You could not be more wrong. I dont give a damn about NFL success of Leaches RBs. I didnt even mention anything about that.
12-06-2022, 08:48 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Neither are going to the portal. One may go to the draft. And he has valid reasons for it.

The Qb that yall wanna blame it on his the sole reason they get the carries they get. Which was more than ever this year btw. He calls them. Who would want to play in an offense that you get more touches than any other position combined? What a bad offense for a RB.

Going to the draft and not getting drafted is worse than staying here and getting a year to a degree w NO bills plus NIL money ever how big or small. Neither would get drafted this year.
12-06-2022, 08:55 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Going to the draft and not getting drafted is worse than staying here and getting a year to a degree w NO bills plus NIL money ever how big or small. Neither would get drafted this year.

Accurate post!
This is correct with the new era of minor league football oops I mean college football!
12-06-2022, 08:58 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Going to the draft and not getting drafted is worse than staying here and getting a year to a degree w NO bills plus NIL money ever how big or small. Neither would get drafted this year.

Agree. 100 percent
12-06-2022, 09:45 PM
Coach34

These guys just dont think that way. They have been targeting the NFL since they were kids and told thats their way to a big life. Most dont give a shit about playing college ball. 80% of the football players I coach have no idea who is in the college football playoff. But they know Philly and Dallas are battling in the NFC
12-06-2022, 10:02 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Going to the draft and not getting drafted is worse than staying here and getting a year to a degree w NO bills plus NIL money ever how big or small. Neither would get drafted this year.

Yep. And you just have to hope our players make the best decision. Something several of them have been badly burned by in the past- Beniquez Brown, Bear Wilson, Josh Robinson, etc.

There is this fallacy among some of our fans that being on the practice squad is this great deal. The reality is that's a very short term thing and the odds are not good of making it to the NFL off of it. And if they get cut the player gets put in this limbo where they have to find their own trainer and gym to stay in shape and pay for it out of their pocket. And if they get cut they don't get paid- and they're just waiting to see if they get picked up by another team or if the team decides that they need them. I actually work out at a place where some of the Saints former practice squad guys go- so I've seen it first hand.
12-06-2022, 10:03 PM
Jarius

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Going to the draft and not getting drafted is worse than staying here and getting a year to a degree w NO bills plus NIL money ever how big or small. Neither would get drafted this year.

I don’t believe DJ is going to the draft. I believe he is going to the portal.
12-06-2022, 10:09 PM
Lord McBuckethead

17n lawyers fighting for equal rights between citizens of our great capitalist country.
12-06-2022, 10:20 PM
Bass Chaser

Next thing you’ll see is we’ll have a very good QB, but because he doesn’t take snaps under center it will be used against us.
12-06-2022, 10:53 PM
Ari Gold

Will be shocked if both are back
12-06-2022, 11:49 PM
PendingTransaction

One is gone for sure. Loose lips sink ships. There's a good chance that the whole RB room is blown up.
12-07-2022, 12:13 AM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by PendingTransaction

One is gone for sure. Loose lips sink ships. There's a good chance that the whole RB room is blown up.

You know these guys are comparing deals. This will not end well for many college programs now and perhaps for all college football in the near future. JMO.
12-07-2022, 01:13 AM
Tater

Bucky you're so freaking emotional.

It's clear Will regressed mentally throughout the year. That and his arm strength waned. He either gutted out a hidden injury or his arm is going and can't handle the workload.

That kid was throwing dots 30-40 yds downfield last year against Memphis. Nowadays he can't throw a ball 25 air yards out of bounds on the run. He's taken a step back and it is CLEAR as day.

I want the kid to succeed. But he's simply not. That boy is giving his best, but we all get told we can't play the child's game at some point. I fear for him, it's way sooner than he'd like.
12-07-2022, 07:48 AM
Pancho

Ok, so who are we bringing in to be the QB?
12-07-2022, 08:45 AM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by Tater

Bucky you're so freaking emotional.

It's clear Will regressed mentally throughout the year. That and his arm strength waned. He either gutted out a hidden injury or his arm is going and can't handle the workload.

That kid was throwing dots 30-40 yds downfield last year against Memphis. Nowadays he can't throw a ball 25 air yards out of bounds on the run. He's taken a step back and it is CLEAR as day.

I want the kid to succeed. But he's simply not. That boy is giving his best, but we all get told we can't play the child's game at some point. I fear for him, it's way sooner than he'd like.

If you lose support of Tater, things are not good.
12-07-2022, 09:09 AM
Cooterpoot

The next couple days are about to get interesting. Lots of players suddenly don't want to play with Will anymore. Imagine that.
Our football program is a festering sore that's close to busting wide open.
12-07-2022, 09:15 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

If you lose support of Tater, things are not good.

Hahahahhaha
12-07-2022, 09:16 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

The next couple days are about to get interesting. Lots of players suddenly don't want to play with Will anymore. Imagine that.
Our football program is a festering sore that's close to busting wide open.

Lord knows I'm not a big will fan, but what's changed? He was a captain, and I thought a very popular player on our team
12-07-2022, 09:26 AM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

The next couple days are about to get interesting. Lots of players suddenly don't want to play with Will anymore. Imagine that.
Our football program is a festering sore that's close to busting wide open.

The ****?!
12-07-2022, 09:38 AM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

The next couple days are about to get interesting. Lots of players suddenly don't want to play with Will anymore. Imagine that.
Our football program is a festering sore that's close to busting wide open.

Is this actually the issue or is this what you think it is? Not a big Will fan myself but that's pretty big if true.
12-07-2022, 09:43 AM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Is this actually the issue or is this what you think it is? Not a big Will fan myself but that's pretty big if true.

I'm sure our Pirate Ship Capt. Coach will take such a mutiny with a smile and an open mind...***

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