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11-26-2022, 12:17 AM
PMDawg

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Dart in our offense would be incredible. Will is a a division two or even three physical talent. Right now if you watch high school varsity football you will see average qbs who have stronger arms, much better speed, quickness and are physically stronger than Will.

This is not the deciding factor. If you process reads mentally very quickly, have great accuracy and nerves of steel/fearless in the pocket/pocket presence-sensing the rush.....you can still be effective in the air raid.

That is a problem here, Will, panics and doesn’t have guts in the pocket and can’t see the field well, he lacks poise.

You can’t be physically limited and lack poise, get the yips.

Will is a liability right now.

He’s a good person, I root for him, it I’m just not seeing it.

Enjoy the 9 win season, numbnuts
11-26-2022, 11:19 AM
BiscuitEater

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

this is naive thinking from pre NIL/transfer portal. I can think of 3 transfer QBs who are about to play in conference championship games and I am sure there is more.

Adapt or get left behind.

OK, name three that are going into the portal at season's end!
11-26-2022, 11:22 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

this is naive thinking from pre NIL/transfer portal. I can think of 3 transfer QBs who are about to play in conference championship games and I am sure there is more.

Adapt or get left behind.

As starters? Is Grayson McCall one of them? I'd definitely take him as a transfer, but he would have a whole lot of options.
11-26-2022, 11:30 AM
BiscuitEater

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

In the game thread on Reddit I saw plural neutral fans say that if you swapped QBs, State would be up big (comments were made during the game). So fans that have no dog in the fight can see Dart is much better than Rogers. Where did Dart come from? Oh yeah, the Portal. Why are so many convinced we couldn't get a Dart level QB if OM can?

Dart came to be 'day one' starter, NOT compete for the job! Who's going to come in and compete with 2 year starter? Names?
11-26-2022, 11:43 AM
TorpedoIPA

Leach has had several quarterbacks sit on the bench for 4 years and do quite well when they got their chance. Two that come to mind are BJ Symmons and Sonnie Cumbie.

Leach doesn't like to change mid season and prefers for the job to be won in the spring. So I would?t write off Sawyer and Locke just yet
11-26-2022, 12:02 PM
smootness

It is not Parsons.

It is Parson. Chris Parson.

Parson

Parson

Parson
11-26-2022, 12:05 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by smootness

It is not Parsons.

It is Parson. Chris Parson.

Parson

Parson

Parson

People still say Leech and Kiffen after all these years, so I wouldn't hold out hope.
11-26-2022, 12:05 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by smootness

It is not Parsons.

It is Parson. Chris Parson.

Parson

Parson

Parson

When he unseats Rodgers, we might get his name right
11-26-2022, 12:17 PM
Homedawg

Not sure why this continues to be a topic. We aren't going to tell Will to hit the road. Nor should we. Not chancing it on the unknown. Second, nobody is coming here to fight out a job w a three year starter. Third, if someone was willing to come and fight it out, we couldn't afford the person anyway. It's not like there won't be lots of schools in search of a transfer qb. We aren't getting a Caleb Williams or anything close. Complain about him all you want, and trust me I have. But, he will have to be beat out by someone on the current roster, and don't find that to be likely. Maybe it could happen. I doubt it
11-26-2022, 12:56 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by smootness

It is not Parsons.

It is Parson. Chris Parson.

Parson

Parson

Parson

Wow. I'm not one that adds an s to people's names so I have no idea why I did that here. Maybe I've read it too many times and don't really know the young man yet.
11-26-2022, 12:57 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Not sure why this continues to be a topic. We aren't going to tell Will to hit the road. Nor should we. Not chancing it on the unknown. Second, nobody is coming here to fight out a job w a three year starter. Third, if someone was willing to come and fight it out, we couldn't afford the person anyway. It's not like there won't be lots of schools in search of a transfer qb. We aren't getting a Caleb Williams or anything close. Complain about him all you want, and trust me I have. But, he will have to be beat out by someone on the current roster, and don't find that to be likely. Maybe it could happen. I doubt it

Agree. Will will be the starter next season.
11-26-2022, 01:01 PM
Catfish

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Wow. I'm not one that adds an s to people's names so I have no idea why I did that here. Maybe I've read it too many times and don't really know the young man yet.

Watched a video of Parsons, he looks pretty good.
11-27-2022, 06:58 AM
Bothrops

I have a feeling Locke will be the heir apparent. There's no way you strikeout with two 4* qb's in a row. Unless Parson is just awesome from the get go, I think it's going to be Locke.
11-27-2022, 08:38 AM
Leeshouldveflanked

One thing is for sure if we have no one on the roster that is pushing Rogers we need to get someone.
11-27-2022, 11:36 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

One thing is for sure if we have no one on the roster that is pushing Rogers we need to get someone.

You can't truthfully push him if you're working with lesser talent on the 2nd & 3rd team.
11-27-2022, 11:45 AM
CadaverDawg

Rogers will be the QB next year. That's just facts. Time we all accept it.

The debate should be how do we overcome his shortcomings in order to best succeed next year. We must run the ball more (I know that's asking a lot), and Will has got to focus on 3 things this off-season.....Stepping up in the pocket, Increasing his arm strength, and increasing his speed. He pretty much is what he is at this point on speed and arm strength, so it's really about utilizing the pocket more to allow himself more time to get guys open. There are a lot of good QB's that have concrete feet...but they're good at manipulating the pocket and knowing when to step up and when to slide, and occasionally when to take off and grab 4-5 yards. When he moves and makes LB'ers come up, guys typically come open. We can't be successful if he is never able to take shots in tight windows or downfield due to arm strength AND is unable to extend plays. Because then you're limiting success to our guys simply beating their guy on every pass play, and that's tough to ask in this league. Especially when their guys are usually more talented than ours. Gotta be able to ad-lib
11-27-2022, 11:48 AM
trob115

Altmyer wants to come to state. Will be interesting to see if we take him. I'm sure think we will
11-27-2022, 11:55 AM
CaptainObvious

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

I have a feeling Locke will be the heir apparent. There's no way you strikeout with two 4* qb's in a row. Unless Parson is just awesome from the get go, I think it's going to be Locke.

Can someone. Anyone, tell me if Parson missed part of the season due to injuries? His numbers are not good for him to be praised as the be all do all QB everyone makes him out to be. His team finished 6-5, He had something like 1200 yards passing and 500+ rushing. But 110 yards a game, if he played all 11, is not good.
11-27-2022, 11:56 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Can someone. Anyone, tell me if Parson missed part of the season due to injuries? His numbers are not good for him to be praised as the be all do all QB everyone makes him out to be. His team finished 6-5, He had something like 1200 yards passing and 500+ rushing. But 110 yards a game, if he played all 11, is not good.

Yes he missed time with an injury
11-27-2022, 01:14 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

OK, name three that are going into the portal at season's end!

that... was not the point of my post at all. read it again
11-27-2022, 01:17 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

As starters? Is Grayson McCall one of them? I'd definitely take him as a transfer, but he would have a whole lot of options.

Cam Rising, Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams were the 3 I was thinking off of the top of my head I'm sure there are more. My point was it does not take 2 years for a transfer QB to come in and be an impact guy.
11-27-2022, 02:33 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Cam Rising, Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams were the 3 I was thinking off of the top of my head I'm sure there are more. My point was it does not take 2 years for a transfer QB to come in and be an impact guy.

Ah, I thought you meant that 3 players playing next week will enter the transfer portal after this season, so I figured it would have to be G5 guys who wanted to play on a bigger stage before trying for the NFL.
11-27-2022, 03:09 PM
Leroy Jenkins

I think I saw a stat at the beginning of the year that said 48% of starting QBs were transfers.
11-27-2022, 03:47 PM
Patrick Tibbons

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Cam Rising, Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams were the 3 I was thinking off of the top of my head I'm sure there are more. My point was it does not take 2 years for a transfer QB to come in and be an impact guy.

Michael Pennix Jr.

He should probably get a Heisman invite. He went off this year.
11-27-2022, 04:42 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Ah, I thought you meant that 3 players playing next week will enter the transfer portal after this season, so I figured it would have to be G5 guys who wanted to play on a bigger stage before trying for the NFL.

There are G5 and FCS options that would be as good if not better options next year than Will. Just a few names to check out.

1. Hank Bachmeier - Boise, former 4 star recruit. Injured some.
2. Brett Gabbert - Miami (OH) - Blaine’s brother
3. Michael Hiers - Samford
4. Parker McKinney - Eastern Kentucky
5. Nolan Henderson - Delaware

There are others. Hudson Card will probably be the top QB in the portal. I’d strike out there then move on.
11-27-2022, 05:13 PM
HancockCountyDog

We are not spending our NIL money on a transfer QB. It just isn't happening.

I know Will had a rough egg bowl, but the defense got the job done and we won. Leach is not going to replace him, he runs the offense that Leach wants.

At the end of the day, if you can give Will a little help on the OL, and one more impact WR, we will be fine offensively.

Also, it helps when we decide to commit to the run.
11-27-2022, 05:24 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

We are not spending our NIL money on a transfer QB. It just isn't happening.

I know Will had a rough egg bowl, but the defense got the job done and we won. Leach is not going to replace him, he runs the offense that Leach wants.

At the end of the day, if you can give Will a little help on the OL, and one more impact WR, we will be fine offensively.

Also, it helps when we decide to commit to the run.

Why does everyone else have to be perfect for Will to be adequate enough to do his job? That’s completely unreasonable to ask.

6 games this year Will has been really bad doing his job. 6! That’s half the schedule. And if wasn’t for the defensive effort we would have lost all 6. Instead we won 2.

Will didn’t have just a rough egg bowl. Any team that was rated 72 or higher defensively (outside of TAMU) Will was bad. That isn’t sustainable. He is who who he is at this point and if we don’t at least try to bring someone in to compete with him, that’s a massive indictment on this staff.

Will we bring one in? Chances aren’t likely. But at least try and I will see you see the problem and are willing to fix it. If we sit back and act like Will is the answer then it’s heads in the sands world in the football office.

Every team on our schedule was beatable this year. Every team. Georgia almost lost multiple times. Bama was beat twice and average teams almost beat them. LSU isn’t some juggernaut in year 1 of the Kelly era ( I can guarantee you this will be the worst team he has there though). Kentucky is just plain bad. Everyone of those teams have either losses or had teams nearly beat them. Want to know who didn’t? Us. Why? Our offense is uncompetitive against any team with a pulse. Why? Our QB. Will is a great person and a great ambassador for our university. He’s just not a good QB and he is hamstringing this team.
11-27-2022, 05:29 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Why does everyone else have to be perfect for Will to be adequate enough to do his job? That’s completely unreasonable to ask.

6 games this year Will has been really bad doing his job. 6! That’s half the schedule. And if wasn’t for the defensive effort we would have lost all 6. Instead we won 2.

Will didn’t have just a rough egg bowl. Any team that was rated 72 or higher defensively (outside of TAMU) Will was bad. That isn’t sustainable. He is who who he is at this point and if we don’t at least try to bring someone in to compete with him, that’s a massive indictment on this staff.

Will we bring one in? Chances aren’t likely. But at least try and I will see you see the problem and are willing to fix it. If we sit back and act like Will is the answer then it’s heads in the sands world in the football office.

Every team on our schedule was beatable this year. Every team. Georgia almost lost multiple times. Bama was beat twice and average teams almost beat them. LSU isn’t some juggernaut in year 1 of the Kelly era ( I can guarantee you this will be the worst team he has there though). Kentucky is just plain bad. Everyone of those teams have either losses or had teams nearly beat them. Want to know who didn’t? Us. Why? Our offense is uncompetitive against any team with a pulse. Why? Our QB. Will is a great person and a great ambassador for our university. He’s just not a good QB and he is hamstringing this team.

You are probably right, but i'm just happy we beat their ass, I don't care that Arnett and the defense did most of the heavy lifting.

The defense won the egg in 2013, but I still give Dak the credit, same way Will gets the credit here.
11-27-2022, 05:31 PM
ZedFedder

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

You are probably right, but i'm just happy we beat their ass, I don't care that Arnett and the defense did most of the heavy lifting.

The defense won the egg in 2013, but I still give Dak the credit, same way Will gets the credit here.

Except Dak played 1/8 of the game.
11-27-2022, 05:33 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

You are probably right, but i'm just happy we beat their ass, I don't care that Arnett and the defense did most of the heavy lifting.

The defense won the egg in 2013, but I still give Dak the credit, same way Will gets the credit here.

Trust me I’m more than happy we won. Yes, we still have the bowl game. But I’m on to next year at this point.
11-27-2022, 05:34 PM
WhiskeyPirate

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Why does everyone else have to be perfect for Will to be adequate enough to do his job? That’s completely unreasonable to ask.

6 games this year Will has been really bad doing his job. 6! That’s half the schedule. And if wasn’t for the defensive effort we would have lost all 6. Instead we won 2.

Will didn’t have just a rough egg bowl. Any team that was rated 72 or higher defensively (outside of TAMU) Will was bad. That isn’t sustainable. He is who who he is at this point and if we don’t at least try to bring someone in to compete with him, that’s a massive indictment on this staff.

Will we bring one in? Chances aren’t likely. But at least try and I will see you see the problem and are willing to fix it. If we sit back and act like Will is the answer then it’s heads in the sands world in the football office.

Every team on our schedule was beatable this year. Every team. Georgia almost lost multiple times. Bama was beat twice and average teams almost beat them. LSU isn’t some juggernaut in year 1 of the Kelly era ( I can guarantee you this will be the worst team he has there though). Kentucky is just plain bad. Everyone of those teams have either losses or had teams nearly beat them. Want to know who didn’t? Us. Why? Our offense is uncompetitive against any team with a pulse. Why? Our QB. Will is a great person and a great ambassador for our university. He’s just not a good QB and he is hamstringing this team.

Not sure we have a 12-0 roster
11-27-2022, 05:37 PM
CoachT14

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Not sure we have a 12-0 roster

We don’t. Doesn’t mean we can’t compete better than losing by double digit scores.
11-27-2022, 05:39 PM
WhiskeyPirate

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

We don’t. Doesn’t mean we can’t compete better than losing by double digit scores.

I don’t think Georgia, Alabama, LSU are legit beefs. Agree we can do better behind center.
11-27-2022, 05:44 PM
CoachT14

LSU lost 3 games this year. Alabama lost 2. Missouri almost beat UGA. This year is one of the few years where all those teams are beatable compared to others. And we couldn’t muster more than 1 offensive TD against UK, Bama, and UGA. They all got scored on with more than 1 TD in multiple games.

It’s not even the offense itself. It’s because our current QB is sub par. Next year we lose a good bit of this current team. We need someone that gives a chance to win some games we aren’t supposed to.
11-27-2022, 05:47 PM
Cooterpoot

You guys can forget bringing in a QB for more than depth. It ain't happening.
11-27-2022, 05:51 PM
WhiskeyPirate

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

LSU lost 3 games this year. Alabama lost 2. Missouri almost beat UGA. This year is one of the few years where all those teams are beatable compared to others. And we couldn’t muster more than 1 offensive TD against UK, Bama, and UGA. They all got scored on with more than 1 TD in multiple games.

It’s not even the offense itself. It’s because our current QB is sub par. Next year we lose a good bit of this current team. We need someone that gives a chance to win some games we aren’t supposed to.

Who do we lose on offense besides sharp ? The o line should be better,
Pretty much the whole o returns and most of the defense.

It will be nice when Sawyer/Locke/parson run this offense with that kid from Katy tx at running back
11-27-2022, 06:14 PM
Tough Dawg

Will is holding this offense/this team back. Here?s to hoping we can find a D1/SEC caliber QB by spring. It can be done. Will seems to be a great kid and that?ll help him succeed in like. I want to win the SEC championship in the meantime.
11-27-2022, 06:16 PM
WhiskeyPirate

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Originally Posted by Tough Dawg

Will is holding this offense/this team back. Here?s to hoping we can find a D1/SEC caliber QB by spring. It can be done. Will seems to be a great kid and that?ll help him succeed in like. I want to win the SEC championship in the meantime.

Agree

Thing is, for this offense, an athletic playmaker from a smaller school who has played four years in a air raid type offense would be a big upgrade. They are out there.
11-27-2022, 06:18 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by trob115

Altmyer wants to come to state. Will be interesting to see if we take him. I'm sure think we will

Really? What's his reasoning?
11-27-2022, 06:22 PM
WhiskeyPirate

Never mind, I see where altmyer is likely to enter the portal December fifth. I’m sure he will contact leach and see what his options are.

I haven’t watched him much, but based on his pedigree he sure looks like a big upgrade over Will.

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