Or you could date a chick named Angelina Joe Lee Dunn.**Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Or you could date a chick named Angelina Joe Lee Dunn.**Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Angelina Joe Lee Dunn would be an awesome message board name.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Sails is trolling at this point. Just joined up and makes no sense.
You can tell BlackSails has a little football knowledge but this Syracuse thread is a bad attempt at trolling. Shrader is a dual-threat QB running a Spread offense that runs a few Air Raid plays. Nothing more, nothing lessQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Their OC, the QB... the writers.. They all disagree with you. It's like you are demanding it to be what you want it to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
You're welcome, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I run mesh and a lot of crossing routes. I guess I’m Air Raid now tooQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
Exactly. Yet, that's "where we're headed". LOL We have a 3 year head start, but we're headed towards what a team did in a single offseason. This is based on the "evidence" of recruiting one dual threat QB, while ignoring the fact that we aren't recruiting, nor using TE's or h-backs. Also ignoring the fact that they run it 61% of the time. Mike Leach has tweaked his offense for 25 years, but has never truly changed it or overhauled it. Others have had success using some of his concepts and building off of them. Meanwhile he has hard-headedly stuck to the exact same thing for 25 years. Don't get me wrong, he's had success along the way, to a degree. If we end up duplicating his success during his tenure here, I'm fine with that. But the SEC seems to be a bit more challenging (whoda thunk it?). We'll see where he landed once his tenure has concluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford
Regarding this specific thread - The author of this thread has one agenda, and he bends anything and everything to try to fit that agenda. He should really be ignored when it comes to football.
Yea, but you are running it with 15 year old kids, that’s on a little different level than what we are talking about right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Syracuse isnt running anything even remotely close to what we run. Not even close
Air Raid is Air Raid regardless of what you need it to be. The OC says it's Air Raid. The OC is a Mike Leach former assistant. Shrader states it's an Air Raid system and talked about his time at MSU under Leach. Second, I never stated we would run it the same way they are, I stated that we would move towards a mobile QB who will be able to run the read option that Leach has on the books and be able to run when flushed.... which is what is happening at Syracuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Those are not all designed runs. That is Shrader being flushed and taking off.
Well croom did say he ran Bill Walsh's offense .........and you can identify as whatever you want these days, about the same....
LOL... Indeed you evidently can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I mean...case closed. But pointless to argue with 2 massive Leach homers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
You remind me of trump.....in your head it's an air raid offense because you want it to be one. In reality, it's not. thanks anyway
I would say you remind me of Brandon but I know you are not sitting there typing with a diaper full of shitQuote:
Originally Posted by was21
Syracuse just ran a play with 1 wr, 2 te, and an h-back. Now they ran 4 WRs the play before. They run a variety of formations and personnel
What is a TE or H-back?******Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Do they have more that 4 routes?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
? No, in the mind of the guy running the offense it's an air raid system.Quote:
Originally Posted by was21
Still an air raid system and we are headed towards having a QB that can do what Shader is doing. You can like it, hate it, roll around on the ground crying and through a fit. Leach, unless he decides to retire, is going to get the time he needs to build this program.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Deal with it
LOL ... You won't see Leach running most of these formations I'm seeing so far. Just sayin.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
It's an air raid passing system with a zone read running option concept as the base of his system. He ran this at BYU with Tayson Hill. If his talent is based on running the ball that's what he will do and that is spread zone read concepts.
So the preview of where we'd headed is an offense that runs reverses, uses 2 TEs, H-back, etc. Duly notedQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I'll buy that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
ETA: I will add that I don't think Leach will incorporate the zone read running option anywhere near the extent it's being used here.
Last time just for MS7. I never stated that we are going to do that. It's in the OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
So what would be the difference here?
1- We will have a higher % of completions. (because more accurate QBs)
2- More attempts. (in passing than that of Cuse)
3- A QB in the top 3 rushing for positive yards. And I would think that will end up around 400 yards (because of a mobile QB)
Just keep building the program!
Your attempt to twit it to me saying we will use a TE is nonsense. Yes, we will be able to run the read option that is on the books and we have seen. Yes there are plays we do not run because we can't.
Like I said, he is here for at least 2 more years (2025 is the earliest). You might as well learn to like it.
Yeah, there are plays we do not run because they would fail due to the lack of running ability. No, we will not be using a TE. Yes, we do have the read option (like Mullen ran). Yes we will have a QB that when flushed, he can run.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
So we're gonna look nothing like Syracuse, but you THINK we will use a mobile qb? Got itQuote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
We don't use a read option like Mullen ran. You are confusing blending of concepts inside of different systems. You have to look at the blocking schemes and what is trying to accomplished inside as well. Leach runs a rear option inside his scheme but it's not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
That's what I'm hearing. Besides, right now, at this moment, this Syracuse O is boring the crap out of me. I'm a hating it **Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That happens when it don't go nowhere *
You know what’s funny, Leach did use a tight end at Tech one year and he was very good. 6-5 250-260 pound Samoan.
LOL
I also remember Leach used a traditional H back at Tech if I’m not imagining things, Clay McGuire who later became an o line coach.
I was a tech basketball fan at the time when Bobby Knight coached and didn’t really care about Tech football and started following it kind of by accident.