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Explain your trust in goat row.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Tried to but Hafta Spread Elsewhere Prior to.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Foscue, Allen , westy all 270 or lower first year. Then what?? This year, while nobody wants to believe it Bc nobody made a big jump- everyone improved in some shape form or fashion- side lotan. Go look at the numbers if you want or just keep bashing. That's fine tooQuote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Which has better odds? Tommy White coming to Starkvegas or TN getting several players busted for PEDs?
White to StarkVegas easy. Tenn is not going to lose players. Russell is catching tonight for TennQuote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
Almost zero clutch this season. I don't care about the numbers and what these hitters did when down several runs. When game outcomes mattered, I saw a bunch of guys with a launch angle mentality, which ended up with a strike out or warning track power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Offense was not the problem. I want us to use the whole field more but based on how our offense was designed and the skill sets of our players the offense performed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
You have to be a lot more clutch more times when your pitching staff is literally never stopping the other team. It's also magnified because of that "one time where had we gotten a hit we would have scored 10 runs" when we "only scored 9". Whereas if we win the gam 9-8 that moment doesn't get noticed at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
It's funny to me how there is this common theme among some MSU fans that the offense was somehow expected to overcome the pitching staff. That's not how it works in baseball. I don't think I've seen anyone post about how the pitching wasn't clutch enough- when that's way more true than the offense not being clutch.
Good post and this pretty much sums it up. Literally no lead was safe with our pitching. In our last 4 series we had the lead in over half those games and couldn't hold it and that doesn't even count the earlier games we blew leads in. Our offense put us in a position to finish at least .500 in conference but we couldn't hold leads or finish games. As usual in baseball it all comes down to pitching every single time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
ACC had 9 dudes with 20 plus HRs this year. SEC had 4.
Seems like a function of competition and arm talent in the ACC. In 2021, only 3 ACC hitters had +20. In 2019, only two had +20.
In 2021, no ACC team hit 100 HR, max 92. In 2019, only one team got +80. This year, 5 teams more than 100 and 2 more than 90.
I haven't run the numbers, but I'd be willing to bet that MSU had the fewest Non-HR extra base hits than any SEC team, and in the group of teams nationally that had the fewest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yes, Pitching was dreadful and injuries added to the frustration. But my biggest frustration is with guys trying to hit bombs when we just needed to string some base hits together.
Smart pitchers played right into that, and it killed us.
Solid pitching combined with scrappy infielders willing to get their heads and asses down low not fearing face injuries and outfielders timing their dives is key to winning. The only thing I did decent in organized sports was having a good IF Glove playing with an attitude hoping the ball be hit my way every pitch; teeth clinched mumbling "Come on Sumbitch, I DARE you hit it to me". Unfortunately I never had enough ASS to drive the ball so one summer of Brandon High was my LASS. Tough Confident Pitching and D sporting War Faces have always been paramount because it can be relied on more consistently than hitting which is historically up, down, streaky and slumpy prompting some batters to seek Pagan Idol Worship for Guidance knocking once Fine Christian Boys off the Pinnacles of Righteousness into the Eternal Flames of HELL.
We were told on this board that if Cumbest had made a slight adjustment, he would have hit 30-35 homers this season. I really like Cumbest, as do MLB scouts. But the scouts and I both disagreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
On a per-game basis for MSUQuote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
22.4% fewer runs, 19.5% fewer hits, 27.1% fewer 2B, 160% fewer 3B, 20.9% fewer walks, but 21.1% more HRs
Tennessee (per game)
15.3% more runs, 3.3% fewer hits, 6.3% more 2B, 47.8% more 3B, 6.1% more walks, and 30.5% more HRs
The biggest per-game improvers in HRs were
Missouri 41.9%, Florida 40.3%, Tennessee 30.5%, and Georgia 29.6% (overall SEC 11.6% more HR)
Biggest per-game changes in 2Bs (+ or -)
Texas AM +30.5%, Kentucky +29.5%, MSU -27.1%, LSU +20.8%
And you would be partly wrong. In SEC play, we had 49 2Bs and 4 3B. That put us 6th in the SEC in non-HR extra base hits in SEC play. Now, we did not load up against our OOC schedule, and were 9th with 101 non-HR extra base hits.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
But, why do you discount HR when we had 95 on the season, which was good for 5th in the league and were just 3 away from having our most ever in a single season? Our average was essentially the same and our HR were up significantly.
We hit 28 less doubles in '22 than '21, but hit 20 more HR. And that is with 16 fewer games. If you factor out post-season - which gets us to a real comparison - we only had 1 less double (we had 27 2b in post season last year) and hit 35 more HR.
To recap regular season comparisons:
2B 97 ('21) vs. 96 ('22)
3B 11 ('21) vs. 5 ('22)
HR 60 ('21) vs 95 ('22)
EXBH - 168 ('21) vs 196 ('22)
Non HR EXBH - 108 ('21) vs 101 ('22)
Our non-HR extra base hits were virtually the same but we hit 35 more HR.
I said before the season I thought we had 6 guys that could hit 15 HR's. Yeager, Cumbest, and Hines made it. Clark hit 14 even tho he struggled at times. James and Tanner were disappointing
Good stats - but if you are pulling from the same sources I am, you are comparing a team that played 16 more games last year than this year. It makes a big difference in the stats overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
what are the chances of Lemo landing both of the Tulane guys?
People dont want to digest that we were better offensively this season. Our problem was Fox and the pitching.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
As soon as I started reading about Cumbest as a Croot, I grew an immediate Man Crush that I've displayed shamelessly here prolly more times than needed since he committed. Reading what that Padres Scout said combined with TE Prowess had me thinking baseball from the get go. I know I've disagreed with past posts advising football but I also know many came from those knowing more about both sports than me and had seen more tape than me. My opinions on him have been more Symbolic Man Crush than Hard Substance even though I remember doing some actual math once trying to figger out why the fella wasn't getting more AB's.Quote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
We weren't better. We were almost identical in most statistical categories. Difference was a lot more K's and HRs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Made it per-game for all comparisons. Cause more games, MSU is not going to play 68 games this year, just 56.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Yeah, baseball and life does not work on averages and normal distributions. You would need to factor out SEC only, Friday Only, Friday-Saturday Only, eliminate SWAC, bracket by RPI opponent.
Bottom line, lots of major declines. The mirror image of MSU's declines are Texas A&M improvements.
TAM (per game) is scoring 22.4% more, 16.0% more hits, 30.4% more 2B, 15.4% more HR, 16.5% more BB
Basically, MSU scored less runs and prevented less runs, generally. You get lots of loses and pain.
Tennessee was a good offensive team last year, CWS and SECT Runner Up, they improved by significant margins. So, it's not like they were horrible and now reverting to a mean performance level.
So, are we getting Tommy White??
I got the per-game comparison. The reason I pointed it out was that our offense was pretty strong in the post season - other than in Hoover. We had 27 2B and 15 HR in 12 games and scored 7.9 runs a game - a full run more than we averaged in the regular season. We scored 381 runs in regular season in '21 compared to 389 in '22. That's 6.80 runs per game to 6.94 - so we actually had a slight increase not your 22.4% decrease.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Ultimately, any way you look at it we didn't do what we need to win, and that has to change for next year.
So, are we getting Tommy White??
👆what he ask anybody know?
Bert's M.I.A again with the answers lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Bert Hits & Runs leaving us alone, ashamed and feeling dirty making us wonder how we coulda been so naive and vulnerable.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
no need for him to hang around .... he showed up and gave it the kiss of death and now he watches and laughs. He could be the Most Interesting Poster in the World** .... but by damn - he's OUR Bert StareQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
He knows he isn't taken seriously and makes for good conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Yep. I'm just having some fun with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
We are still getting Tommy White. We got into a small bidding war with Florida St and Miami which we easily won. The only real competition was Florida Southwestern State College (JUCO) bc he could be drafted this time next year in the early first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelingdawg
You can thank the silent big money alumni boys of the construction industry for getting the NIL money where we needed to be. it's over $500k. FSU and Miami could barely get to half of that.
to recap: nothing has changed, you can wrap Tommy in maroon and white
LOL This sounds eerily just like the Napier deal.
This beyond Awesome. Fun times back @ The Dude brought to us by the Legendary Bert!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert Stare
He be back to give us a unfinished reach around leaving us wanting more.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Dang I gotta get better sources. Heard he was headed to Last Chance U and Netflix was going to make Last Chance U baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert Stare
But then back off to his main squeeze Ernie leaving us again High & Dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
When do we expect to hear the news publicly? Anyway Cohen can F this up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert Stare
Isn't believe the deadline July 1? If so,we have a few weeks for decisions to be made.
We "easily" outbid Miami and FSU? Yeah now I know this isn't true...
It's baseball, not football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha