When you consider the current administration who has slaughtered America, I don't expect anything to work properly, ever again. That includes woke ass college sports.
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When you consider the current administration who has slaughtered America, I don't expect anything to work properly, ever again. That includes woke ass college sports.
Just wait till you see what the price of the prime seats are for the Hump after the remodel
Bad as NIL is for State, the 1 time transfer rule is the true death pill. State can find an under the radar guy and get him as the big NIL $$$ ignore him... but with a 1 time transfer rule, he's being re-recruited every year. We cannot our smart, our develop, or out luck the competition. They will buy away our stars the second they start to emerge.
I see people saying things like "well surely we can compete if we focus on X sport, or move X money into NIL". I don't think y'all realize the scale of money some programs throw around. A&M just spent $30M on a HS recruiting class. Their athletic budget is like $250M. Schools like TN and FLorida have never had much booster support for baseball, yet they still have the money to build stadiums like ours. We spent years fundraising and focusing money into our #1 sport, they match us as an afterthought when their boosters see ours and go "that'd be nice to have, why not?". Arkansas has boosters that could -without sacrificing their quality of life in any way- donate in a single year more than all ours put together can in several.
WHO is paying Tolu, for what, who arranged the deal and where did the money originate? We need to start talking details of these NIL deals so we can discuss them with some facts as a starting point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I just love how people use WE need to when they bitch and give little to nothing.
Blue Bloods arent depending on $500 donations from Joe Smith. The big boys do the heavy lifting. No different at StateQuote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
Naw. Remember this was all for equity and equality and to help the little guy players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
As with every other time this bullshit reasoning is used, a small few of the ?little guys? benefit. And the haves of the industry choke out the have nots even more.
Rinse repeat and the ignorant public cannot figure out what went wrong as they stick a fork in the 240 volt socket.
The problem with this entire ideology is not one of them ever asks “and then what?”. The unintended and obvious consequences aren’t very complicated. I could teach my dog this but somehow the public keeps falling for it.
PM me if you are interested in any bridge purchases. Cheap cheap.
Well once they lost the supreme court case, the NCAA didn't have anything they could do. Players have rights, the same as any other student on campus. They should be able to make whatever money they can. Does that mean that the money requires them to stay at the school until they officially go through the draft? Maybe it could. I am 100% for the players having the ability to cash in however they want, but the school also needs protection against being extorted.
Seems to me, the universities missed the boat on this. They had the opportunity to set a earnings package for scholarship and walk-on players that would have avoided all of this. Mullen talked about it all the time, how players never had a dime to go out on a date. I am sure the plantation owners had an issue when they had to start paying the slaves as well. I am sure, the southern states are still feeling the effects to this day of their free labor gravy train ending. Same here with NCAA football. It is going to get uglier before it gets better, just like the economy of the southern US after the civil war.
That's not true. The NCAA could have set up rules related to NIL - they chose not to. They very easily could have created rules saying players can take no more than $100 for an autograph, and those must be sold at a sanctioned event. Or that players could sign legit endorsement deals with real companies - but that those contracts must produce an actual ad/commercial/etc. and not just be an organized slush fund to pay players. Or that the NCAA would set up a NIL board with players to negotiate deals that were industry wide like NCAA Football with EA Sports. The NCAA failed to act and it is going to ruin the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
But what seems to be lost on you is that those big money places were already giving them big time $$$. What's different is once a guy signed, his leverage was gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If we an limit this transfer portal with some decent guidelines, I think the NIL money thing will work itself out.
Problem is, it's not a free market. You 'have' to go to college or sit out years after high school before going pro. A true free market would be no draft, players sign with whoever, whenever they want. If that was the case semi-pro ball in all leagues would have probably replaced the College market because quality players would probably go there and earn money.Quote:
Originally Posted by YazooDawg23
edit: baseball aside which is the closest to a free market.
A free market can still have protections and contracts that are negotiated. The NFL, MLB and NBA are all free markets but if you want to get paid by them, you have to sign a contract. The league as a wholes sets down rules that all the teams must follow, that's what is lacking in college sports.
Surely contracts be done for college sports to limit the portal movements. For now, it 's a free for all, I expect deals to have much better wording in the near future to protect the teams and donors monies better but we still lack leadership and governance by the NCAA where the Pro leagues have it.
To me, NCAA just quit when they lost the supreme court case. They may not can stop the NIL monies but they can help with it's regulation and certainly can with the portal. It appears to me that they have chosen not to do anything and blame it on the courts.
Ha, true statement. Just like we need a $15/hr min wage. So many thought that would fix everything. All it does is make your fast food hamburger cost $15 now. You don't gain anything. It does eliminate the middle class which is what the goal of socialism/communism does. Why are people so stupid? Because we let the gov (Biden just said they are our children) not teach them anything useful in school but social agendas. Unfortunately, we will all pay the price of a dumb culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
Agree wholeheartedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
And, of course, quality of education, what they major in, etc., is not even considered (presumably).Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Where do you think we been for the last 80 years? This is not new, blue bloods have always had money. Imagine Alabama with unlimited scholarships! Ghat was reality before 1973!Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Pretty sure this is what Leach was talking about when he presented his ideas. To paraphrase here: 1. Guarantee them some amount ($100K) upon graduation from or end of eligibility at the university they originally signed with. You lose the 100k if you transfer and school #2 owes you nothing. 2. Treat them like pro athletes and have a draft and trades. You're the #1 rated D-tackle recruit in high school eyeing Alabama. Tough shit. ND State has the first pick. Also Leach said something along the lines of being able to trade 2 WR for a tackle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock