I don't know about OM and their portal success, but at this point I feel like Lane could create an entire team of portal kids from the School for the deaf and blind and still beat Leach....
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I don't know about OM and their portal success, but at this point I feel like Lane could create an entire team of portal kids from the School for the deaf and blind and still beat Leach....
Corral point blank said the offense being good was all on Lebby. Lebby worked with him and the offense A LOT. Remember when our DC under JoMo started Toughness Tuesdays b/c we were getting to be fragile little bitches? Lebby did something similar with the offense. But, it was more about chemistry and execution. It wasn't Lane's idea. According to Corral good old Freshwater was usually off in Florida and missed quite a few practices.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Recognize that OU reporters skewed the questions to paint Lebby as a great OC at the expense of Kiffin. He?s been on several things talking big on both of them. He seems to hold Kiffin in high regard still. You?re smarter than to believe fan writer slop.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Matt can still hold Kiffin in high regard but say he wasn't at a lot of offensive workouts. We'll see if Weiss Jr. can get the respect Lebby did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
Why would Lebby vent at Kiffin through a fan reporter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
He was benched for John Rhys Plumlee the year after that Egg Bowl. So, I guess Ole Miss's coaches thought he sucked too.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Now some of those same fans are saying that Will Rogers sucks at the same stage in his career as Corral.
Lane acts that way to everybody he crosses paths with. He has been forced to give apologies on multiple occasions by Carter simply due to how he acted or said to a very influential person.
Not Lebby. An OU fan site writer asked Corral about Lebby for content to build up Lebby. It appears there are some at OU that still don?t like his Briles connection, so they really pointed the questions to get the answers they were looking for, like ALL fan site writers do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Will doesn?t suck. He will do fine. Win some games and will put up big stats, because that?s what all fairly efficient AirRaid QBs do in Leach?s system. He would have to be really bad not to. Now, that being said, he and Corral aren?t the same talent wise, even when compared at the same point in their careers. Will is more mature, but nowhere near as talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Will being as talented as Corral isn't my point. My point is Will is likely to improve a lot between now and the next year or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
He may. Typically comes in the form of fine tuning, though, not increased athletic ability at this point. I?ve not ever said Will sucks. He?s fine. He?s reliable enough and smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
This is what happens when you have a journalism school and place Ole Miss graduates in sports reporting jobs. This doesn't mean the talking heads are Ole Miss fans. This means that one of their research guys, a stat girl, and 2 of the camera operators that they work around everyday are Ole Miss fans and those people chat and talk them up. It's not a conspiracy it's marketing 101 and, yes, Ole Miss does this intentionally and, no, it's not a big conspiracy with the students they help get jobs. You just put people that are supporters or fans of your company in and around influential people or give them a voice and wait for the windfall. This happens at the local, regional, and national level. State is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind in this aspect. This is how you win a NC or go to 12 straight bowl games and get picked dead last every season while a team with majority losing seasons in that same time span gets picked in the top 25 regulary. It's perception guided by pro-Ole Miss influence and mouthpieces. Again...not a conspiracy just marketing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
The interesting thing about this is that it creates a perception of "winning legacy" which isn't real but still becomes reality due to that perception. This gets reflected (typically) in recruiting leading to success with some high profile recruits which then leads to 10 win seasons. I know it's not the way your typical MSU fan or booster thinks but it is often a successful strategy. Not everytime but it does equate to "higher highs".
I still think Corral is a cock sucker.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Agree. The fake it til you make it is an actual strategy that does work more often than one would think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Not sure if he is but that is what the oxford cougars do for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Dart is now rumored to be enrolled at OM ..... along with Trigg. ( I have no idea who Trigg is but they sure seem excited about it) ... now all of a sudden they are expecting another big season next year
They expect a big year every year, and somehow convince media they will have one too. I dont see any way they win the egg bowl next year
I hope it is just BS. The Trigg kid is a damn good TE. I'm not sold on the QB, he is solid - but Trigg is a really nice TE that kiffin will figure out a way to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
Steve just said on the Chuck Oliver that one of his sources confirmed Dart, but didn?t mention Trigg.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Dart is good but he ain't Corral
Doesn't matter cuz State's gonna 17 'em all to death & send them to hell to die.
OM has now added 7 4stars in the portal. Dart and Trigg official. And about to add a D-line transfer from Georgia Tech. Man, they are putting on a tranfer portal clinic.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If God really cared about punishing OM, he would've insisted Gen. Meade march south after his victory at Gettysburg to scorch/salt the earth in Oxford to ensure they never became more than a hick town North MS.***Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Kiffin said from the beginning that he was going to recruit different. He's a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We've added 4 4 stars through the portal and addressed our kicking needs plus we don't have near the holes to plug as they do. They've done well but so have we.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
No doubt. I still wish they had someone not as competent, lol. I do think his offense translates to a season with more consistency, as opposed to our peaks and valleys. Hopefully next year we see an uptick in the consistency department.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Agreed on all points. Dart is a good qb but he's not near the athlete corral is and Corrals legs one them at least 2 games last year. Be interesting to see what they do losing that element in their offense .Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
3, 4 stars I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
OM has signed probably 7 starters.
I think he's every bit as good from a talent perspective. They are going to be a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
This is the key to the portal, too...getting impact guys that can start from day one. It's a totally different animal compared to JUCO, where those guys are playing and practicing against other JUCO guys...with these portal guys from D1 schools...yeah, they might not have been starters (though some are), but they are playing against other D1 players. That distinction really can't be overstated.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Yeah it's 3, I had counted Matthews but he's a high 3 star not 4. They lost 14 starters, they lost a ton of players on their front 7(including most allQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Their 2 deep)all their leading rushers and multiple coaches. While they've replaced some they have a lot of questions marks. I just know if we'd lost this much we'd be in a meltdown unheard of in the history of mankind
Lol.
This is definitely true. While Kiffin is building a roster with "potentially" more immediate success....he is also building a roster like a mercenary that wants to get out of town as quickly as possible. He's already succeeded in winning 10 games at OM; I just hope he doesn't do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yep, the portal makes juco less important which has been an MSU stronghold for a long time. We kinda rested through the portal scene after the early signing period, while others gained ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Building a roster like this is a gamble. It could give you quick success or it could set your roster balance back a couple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
For sure. But now that the portal exists, how willing are HS guys going to be waiting their turn sitting on the bench? Player development via high-3/low-med-4*'s and "diamonds in the rough" was our bread and butter (as well as JUCO, to a lesser extent). We'll absolutely have to adapt to the times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
No doubt about it. Times they are changin'Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
How the Hell could God have punished OM More than Gettysburg? Were there any male students left the day after?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
People,
It's open season in college football. Money rules. Money will get players. End of story. College football now has free agency. NCAA violations are a thing of the past.
Welcome to 2022
Fraid dat maybe right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34