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12-19-2021, 08:00 PM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

How much responsibility does our AD bear for this incredible regression? Seems to beg the question and I?m a Cohen supporter.

IF the story posted here is true (which I'm still pretty skeptical of), his hands were tied and he had no choice. No AD in America would allow coaches to have relationships with players and keep their jobs. In fact, Cohen was extremely gracious for not revealing this information publicly.
12-19-2021, 08:12 PM
Activated Alpha

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

That a way to give them a good tongue lashing.

Reading these comments, someone on our team received a mighty good tongue lashing...
12-19-2021, 08:20 PM
BayouDawg

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Originally Posted by Activated Alpha

Reading these comments, someone on our team received a mighty good tongue lashing...

I laughed way too hard at this
12-19-2021, 09:31 PM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

IF the story posted here is true (which I'm still pretty skeptical of), his hands were tied and he had no choice. No AD in America would allow coaches to have relationships with players and keep their jobs. In fact, Cohen was extremely gracious for not revealing this information publicly.

You can be skeptical but some type of issue/scandal close to Schaefer or his family has been implied by multiple posters since the day we found out he was leaving for Texas. Nothing new with this other than some folks seemingly willing to give away more detail than in the past.
12-19-2021, 09:56 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

IF the story posted here is true (which I'm still pretty skeptical of), his hands were tied and he had no choice. No AD in America would allow coaches to have relationships with players and keep their jobs. In fact, Cohen was extremely gracious for not revealing this information publicly.

With all respect, just not going to perpetuate the conversation with a context of hypothetical happenings and innuendo.
12-19-2021, 10:03 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

With all respect, just not going to perpetuate the conversation with a context of hypothetical happenings and innuendo.

I bet you think Richard Williams just decided to retire also huh? I mean- there wasn’t a Clarion-Ledger story about anything else. Just hypothetical happenings and innuendo. Wimp Sanderson also
12-19-2021, 10:06 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I bet you think Richard Williams just decided to retire also huh? I mean- there wasn’t a Clarion-Ledger story about anything else. Just hypothetical happenings and innuendo. Wimp Sanderson also

The unbeaten, untied, undisputed champion of the world seems to have its way with MSU coaches of all kinds.
12-19-2021, 10:19 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I bet you think Richard Williams just decided to retire also huh? I mean- there wasn?t a Clarion-Ledger story about anything else. Just hypothetical happenings and innuendo. Wimp Sanderson also

Well, again, with all respect Coach, those historical events are equally irrelevant to the current state of our women?s basketball program.
12-19-2021, 10:56 PM
ImissCityBagel

WTF did the offer Vic to take him away? I'm sure we emptied the bank on him.
12-19-2021, 11:01 PM
klong-dog

What's the point of keeping it tight lipped now? Lol. He's not coming back
12-19-2021, 11:08 PM
captaindog

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Originally Posted by Coach34

There were consequences. Vic was told to replace the person or leave town. Vic left town.

Wait a second. It has been pretty widely reported he was offered basically a match of the amount offered by Texas to stay. Is that incorrect or are you saying he was told he could get more money but he had to get rid of his assistant?
12-19-2021, 11:11 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Well, again, with all respect Coach, those historical events are equally irrelevant to the current state of our women?s basketball program.

Our team has obviously gone down
12-19-2021, 11:20 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by captaindog

Wait a second. It has been pretty widely reported he was offered basically a match of the amount offered by Texas to stay. Is that incorrect or are you saying he was told he could get more money but he had to get rid of his assistant?

I’m saying that I was told all that was bunk and Vic was told to make a change or find another job. He chose to find another job.

If you want to cover up a possible scandle- saying he’s going home and we tried our best to keep him is an easy to do it. Outback didn’t transfer to Texas did she?
12-20-2021, 07:53 AM
Fader21

I guess people's favorite song is down under- men at work. But not necessarily men
12-20-2021, 08:32 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Fader21

I guess people's favorite song is down under- men at work. But not necessarily men

It's bad when a coach gets called out on the carpet.
12-20-2021, 09:18 AM
basedog

In today's world, you have to be cautions posting things you know or hear. The story behind Vic's departure is touchy, when family comes first you do whatever you can to protect and defend all.
I'm sure his departure wasn't easy for all involved, which was family and Msu.
12-20-2021, 09:44 AM
Fader21

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

It's bad when a coach gets called out on the carpet.

But she likes to be on the hardwood court.
12-20-2021, 09:51 AM
Dak Holliday

Good gracious. I may have to start reading all the threads. I?d never have looked at this one if it hadn?t kept popping up at the top. I guess one never knows what a dawg might drag up.
12-20-2021, 10:34 AM
Captain Falcon

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I?m saying that I was told all that was bunk and Vic was told to make a change or find another job. He chose to find another job.

If you are implying that we would have fired Vic if he refused to make a staff change or leave on his own then I'm not buying it. People would have demanded Cohen's head on a platter, Vic was untouchable when he was here.

I have no idea if there was any kind of scandal or not, I have heard all kind of wild rumors and theories about why Vic left. I think people have had a hard time rationalizing the move when in reality it may be pretty straight forward. Texas is simply a better job. They are a program who has had success under multiple coaches and who has a significantly higher floor as a program than we have. It took him one season to get them to the Elite 8. Meanwhile, he walked out the door and our program immediately fell off a cliff.

Now if there was some kind of scandal as well, that is another matter entirely and I have no inside knowledge on any of that. But a move from Mississippi State to Texas is one that can be pretty easily justified without a scandal.
12-20-2021, 11:21 AM
THE Bruce Dickinson

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

In C34 defense Vic had more than just those 3 coaches on staff...
it?s ok the local Starkville WBK faithful can now go to volleyball games or just complain about the men?s program

Ari, the fine people of Starkville have ALWAYS loved women's volleyball. They just play a more fundamental game than men's volleyball and it's much more enjoyable. *

Male volleyball players just play street (volley)ball and never hustle. *
12-20-2021, 11:38 AM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Captain Falcon

If you are implying that we would have fired Vic if he refused to make a staff change or leave on his own then I'm not buying it. People would have demanded Cohen's head on a platter, Vic was untouchable when he was here.

I have no idea if there was any kind of scandal or not, I have heard all kind of wild rumors and theories about why Vic left. I think people have had a hard time rationalizing the move when in reality it may be pretty straight forward. Texas is simply a better job. They are a program who has had success under multiple coaches and who has a significantly higher floor as a program than we have. It took him one season to get them to the Elite 8. Meanwhile, he walked out the door and our program immediately fell off a cliff.

Now if there was some kind of scandal as well, that is another matter entirely and I have no inside knowledge on any of that. But a move from Mississippi State to Texas is one that can be pretty easily justified without a scandal.

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.
12-20-2021, 11:56 AM
Activated Alpha

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.

Upon further reading of this thread, I am convinced something else was spread then licked.....
12-20-2021, 10:02 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.

This is high class word usage
12-21-2021, 06:45 AM
Pancho

Counterpoot makin us read tween the lines.........
12-21-2021, 09:12 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Pancho

Counterpoot makin us read tween the lines.........

Yep, he fingered it for sure.
12-21-2021, 10:03 AM
MadDawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Play with scissors, you're going to get cut. The school had to shut that down lickity split! We handled it behind the curtains. It might seem fishy to you, but sometimes you have to lick these things before the rumors spread.

That was some cunning linguistics.
12-21-2021, 03:12 PM
State82

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

That was some cunning linguistics.

Winner
12-21-2021, 03:53 PM
klong-dog

Red on top, fire in the hole. :confused:
12-21-2021, 06:56 PM
Dak Holliday

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Originally Posted by State82

Winner

Agree
12-21-2021, 09:52 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by MadDawg

That was some cunning linguistics.

Doesn't take a ****ing linguist to describe the double-ended consequences of this situation. We simply nipped it in the bud to avoid having to strap up for the media pounding.
12-21-2021, 10:05 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Doesn't take a ****ing linguist to describe the double-ended consequences of this situation. We simply nipped it in the bud to avoid having to strap up for the media pounding.

Thats fantastic.

A combination of summing up the situation and using lingo to make people laugh. Well done Sir
12-22-2021, 07:52 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Doesn't take a ****ing linguist to describe the double-ended consequences of this situation. We simply nipped it in the bud to avoid having to strap up for the media pounding.

Lmao....you sir are a winner!

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