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You're preaching to the choir, buddy. I support the party that [generally] wants to tax the hell of Big Pharma and move toward a more European model.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
That's not an order. That's a recommendation. A health care worker is not supposed to impress their personal beliefs on a patient. Regardless of whether it's pro or anti something. That's not our job. A lot of healthcare workers are not for the flu vaccine. And it was like that long before COVID.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
An order would be for physical therapy to evaluate a patient.
Sports league test healthy people. If all fully vaccinated people were tested daily, do you think break through cases would be "rare"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Vaccinations prepare your body for the virus. Every single vaccination in the entire world, ever developed works exactly the same way. From Polio, smallpox, HPV, to the flu. None of these vaccines keep you from getting the virus, never has. It does allow your body to build up defenses. It allows your body to immediately attack the virus upon it entering your system. It allows your body to snuff it out hopefully before it mutates into something your immune system cannot recognize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Vaccines never stop you from spreading it, but they do lessen the time you are potentially a carrier and lessen the viral load potential depending on variant.
Vaccines never stop you from getting the virus, but they do lessen the time it takes your body to respond.
Vaccines do not guarantee you will not go to the hospital, but it does lessen the levels of response your immune system has to engage to defeat it. Cytostorms and the damage they cause to both your immune system and your own healthy cells is an issue that is avoided with vaccines.
Boosters, help recharge your response over time due to waining protection.
I have no idea how people have become entrenched in their hesitation to a simple vaccine that has been given 8.66 billion times, but damn people. Your choice does not have to define you forever. These are simple, simple, simple medical facts. The anecdotal stories about bullshit reactions and whatever are statistically irrelevant compared to the reality that this virus can kill you at a much higher statistical rate. It is very simple math here.
Maybe people have decided that they have made a decision and come hell or high water, they are right regardless of the mountain of evidence to the contrary. I think this has become about a person's identification they have chosen.
Like I said, my 8 year old gets it. My 95 year old grandma gets it. Everyone else, it worries me.
Obviously I can't answer a hypothetical question. Remember that I'm the one who posted back on Page 1 the article that the NFL is doing what you and I agree they should do.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That's a different question on whether the vaccine works, though, and the numbers conclusively demonstrate that it does, and not merely in the "makes your symptoms less severe" sense.
I still wonder how they keep up with positivity for vaccinated vs non-vaccinated. I've been tested twice at fast pace since I was vaccinated, I was positive once, and I was negative once. I wasn't asked either time on my vaccination statusQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Never let a crisis go to waste!
All placebos are 50% effective- how?s this one doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Maybe this is why OSHA's asking companies NOT to report side effects? We were LIED to about how WE helped fund covid creation and lied to kiss China's ass until the truth came out where the shit started. We're gonna just have to work our way thru this and get back to normal unless we wanna see the biggest killer in world history which is POVERTY which will make covid seem like a walk in the park. I have NO faith in what the government sez because they've been lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
Once again, you clearly do not understand what vaccines do. Please stop with these "questions" that you think proves anything. This entire world asking "questions" that they think the obvious answer proves their point. They don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
In this case, yes a bunch of people that are fully vaccinated would test positive here and there. But the key information here is, Vaccines do not keep you from getting it. They never have, and never will. That is not within their capabilities. That was never the goal. Just because you thought it was, or didn't understand vaccines, says more about the failure of your news source in educating you, or a failure of your high school biology teacher. I don't know. But man, this is getting old. There goal is to train everyone's body to defeat the virus, limit its spread, and systematically eliminate the potential for it to run 17n wild through the population.
All of which the vaccine does dang well.
We have little weapons to fight this virus. 1. Social Distancing, which no one wants to do. 2. Vaccines, which some people don't understand.
Both are important, because we have limited healthcare resources when dealing with a nation wide threat all at once.
So please, read this post slowly and know that I am not trying to trick you, or propose any radical ideas that make me money, or keep you from enjoying life in any way. I love all you guys, and I don't want to see anyone get this thing, because they made hasty decision based on one viewpoint.
This entire post is sad. I am sorry OLJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Every time I have been tested, I have been asked. Are you sure you didn't put it on the form? Are you sure they didn't already have it in the system, you know medical records are now digital, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I haven't read this whole thread. But if you are an athlete, you are fully vaccinated, and you have no symptoms....you should not be getting tested. Does anyone disagree with that other than the pro sports leagues?
Thank goodness they aren't testing asymptomic high school kids are our boys wouldn't have high school athletics.
If by European model you mean having to pay taxes for owning a television, a sugar tax, a car tax. Then count me out. Economics is all about trade offs. You want a big welfare state you gotta pay for it. And theyve realized they cant kill the goose that lays the golden eggs so the middle class has to pay all these extra taxes now including a VAT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I think you're referring to one particular pain pill whose placebo was 50% effective in one study, certainly not "all placebos."Quote:
Originally Posted by Apoplectic
Nonetheless, the COVID vaccine is around 90% effective, give or take a few points depending on which one we're talking about. That's a lot better than the regular flu shot (40-60%) and similar to birth control pills (91%).
Source for all numbers is the almighty Google.
If they all get vaccinated there wouldn't be a problem.
24 fully vaccinated browns just tested positive?.Quote:
Originally Posted by was21
Great podcast here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-vaccinations/Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
Part of the story is why are all western govts only allowing an EUA vaccine as the acceptable approach
How do we know? We all believed Lyin' Aaron was too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
Might want to stay away from Gateway Pundit:Quote:
Originally Posted by Apoplectic
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-gateway-pundit/
Maybe they did have it in medical records. I wasn't asked though, and I didn't put it on any form. Wasn't vaccinated at fast paceQuote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
And I believe those numbers like I believe in the tooth fairy. I personally know of someone dying, in a nursing home, and Covid being reported as the cause, of death, when the lady was not even sick. In fact, the facility had forced all residents to be tested, and her test was negative. The lady died of nothing more than declining health due to advanced age. The protestations, of the family, were blatantly ignored. Families, of a couple of other residents, reported the exact same scenario following the deaths of their family members.
Common sense tells me, if I personally know of these few cases, in one place, surely there were many more falsely reported deaths.
This is not conjecture, and that is all I will have to say on the subject.
When these were first being hyped they were all in front of the cameras with the biggest hard on they've ever had saying they were 96% effective in preventing you from getting the virus. When that proved to be bullshit it changed to it prevents you from severe symptoms and going to the hospital. When that proved to also be close to bullshit it just lessens symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
Let's just compare the effectivity of this "vaccine" to the ones more measles, polio, and chicken pox. This is not a vaccine. It's a glorified flu shot.
Here is the definition of vaccine:
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
Notice the provide immunity portion. This is not providing immunity. It's not a vaccine by definition.
That's not bullshit. Every source out there shows around 90% effectiveness, and you can do the math by hand to confirm it if you want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
Unless you allege that the whole pandemic is fake like another of our posters does, and therefore no number can be trusted, then you can personally verify all the information out there.
To be fair? haven?t they also changed the definition of what a vaccine is now? Whatever keeps the Nazi grift going huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
I see a few of these people in the thread are likely Fauci worshipers & actually trust one of the most corrupt government organizations ever created, CDC.
FWIW I have a few family members that are in healthcare & everyone of them say the ?Covid? tests are useless & that they?ve seen way to many healthy people testing positive. They know the numbers are BS.
Not to mention that the flu has been almost completely eradicated off the face of the earth since ?Covid? 🤷🏼
And the FDA "assured" us opioids would never be a problem. Kinda like when docs were prescribing antibiotics when unnecessary. Thankfully I followed common sense than "follow the science".Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I get tested once per month. Never been asked about vaccination status.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
Not sure what your point is. If an NFL player (or any American at all) has a fentanyl problem, we need to help them too. Is this another controversial view of mine?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I?ll present the argument you used to 7s point. Small sample size and no proof that this is more than an isolated incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Maybe that Covid is hardly an issue for young, healthy people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
This is a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apoplectic
If it were about your health, then why are they suppressing PROVEN treatments of this flu with medicine that also helps many other things? And very safe.
There is a local doctor here that?s treating virus?s with this & he has not had one hospitalization or death due to this new flu since he began treating it with this. He?s now prescribing it for many other things now as well, especially respiratory & viral infections.
NEWSFLASH: It?s not about your health. If you think the government cares about you then you?re a lost soul.
https://c19ivermectin.com/
https://www.thedesertreview.com/news...2d2325a08.html
Covid and Fentanyl. Thanks China!
Yeahhh I've been tested 10+ times because of travel, have never been asked a single time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
South Africa is averaging 23,000 New Covid Cases Daily but only about 30 Deaths Daily thats like 1/10 of one percent. Most if not all Deaths are from Delta, not the new Omicron Variant.
Omnicron may end up a blessing if it infects the hell out of this country without sending people to the hospital and grave yard. Get this country a big dose of natural immunityQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Just got tested a couple of weeks ago at a Walgreens to go on a cruise. No mention of vax status for the test. Just had to provide appointment confirmation email, photo ID and insurance card.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Young, healthy people can't spread covid?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Do I need to remind you that a young, healthy person's right to not vaccinate ends at the right of another American's right to not be infected by a reckless, selfish young, healthy American?
Covid doesn't fit into anyone's box or ideology (lol-ing right now at how my phone tries to autocorrect ideology to idiocy). the Vax isn't perfect, scientists aren't perfect, supposed freedom fighters and truth tellers are mostly grifters, pharma profits are definitely a motive, etc. **** all of it.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I need to get an antibody test. I'd love to know the numbers. I've had 3 Pfizer shots, lived with my son in a camper whiling going through radiation and he had a full blown case of Covid. I'm in downtown Nashville 2-3 days a week surrounded by thousands of tourists. My son has people from all over the country yelling in his ear while he's playing Broadway then we all go home. It's like this never existed until it's time to go to work.