Even if he gets a touted qb from the portal, it doesn't mean it will translate to wins. It's risky for him to stay there if he has a choice after 10-2. I have little doubt he will own Leach so I want him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by lastmajordog
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Even if he gets a touted qb from the portal, it doesn't mean it will translate to wins. It's risky for him to stay there if he has a choice after 10-2. I have little doubt he will own Leach so I want him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by lastmajordog
Now I hope he stays at ole miss. I want to see him own leach without Matt Corrall and a dozen seniors. I’ll take that bet next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
LOL ... I don't think he'll own Leach myself either. I think when Leach gets rolling it will probably be about 50/50. They're both good coaches IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
That's equally as risky as Jackie relying heavily on JUCO's. You have to have a core group of players- and Ole Miss had that with their QB and RB to build around. At some point it will catch up with them and when Kiffin leaves their numbers will be way out of whack leaving a massive rebuild.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And remember they didn't get Corral in the portal. Very rare to find a QB like that- and the unicorn QB's that are in the portal are not looking to go to Ole Miss. See Justin Fields.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
If we roll them pretty good next year, it’s going to be a while before they can beat us IMO, we will get better every year until will graduates, and then Locke will be primed to take over, or Sawyer but there will. E some very good q bs in the pipeline.....that’s how Leachs q b depth works. He reloads. And it’s never with underclassmen.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Kiffin is a better hire short term.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Leach is a better hire long term.
Y'all are really selling Kinkead Dent short.****Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think we're ahead of schedule in some ways. We had some disappointing losses but almost all of them were because we made young mistakes and we were in very game except for Alabama. And we pulled some upsets. We're a Brandon Ruiz injury away from a 10 win season ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
Perhaps! LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
That's primarily due to Kiffin probably looking to leave more and/or his assistants doing same thing. If Kiffin applies himself it will probably be close to 50/50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
One of things I really like about Leach is other coaches seem to like working with him and the majority of his staff have been together for a while. Hopefully we won't have a lot of staff turnover. That helps a lot when trying to build a program.
You guys are crazy if you don't think kiffin is on the shortlist at OU. The dude has proven he is a solid hire. Some of you need to take your maroon colored glasses off. He is a better coach than Lincoln Riley every day of the week. Anybody want to debate me let's go....
I don’t think OU would hire a guy like Kiffin. I don’t think he is theirkind of guy, Bob Stoops still has a lot of influence there. JMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
And I’m not saying that because I don’t like Kiffin. There are schools he is a good fit with and there are schools that would view him as a bit sleazy or mercenary. Especially some of the blue bloods.
I'm betting on Kiffin to stand pat. The thing is if he goes to any of those other schools everyone's mentioning him with, his seat starts out warm automatically and won't take much to get hot. His seat is cool at OM now and it would be a while till it warms up any, unless he goes like 3-8 next year maybe.
ETA: I kinda wonder if Dano regrets his decision to leave in 2018. He had a team to compete for SEC and the Natty and he knows he did. He woulda had a lifetime contract if he had been in Natty game against Clemson. I thought he was stupid to take FL job with their fans' expectations.
The board seems to morphing from hoping kiffin will leave to kiffin isn't gonna be any good without corral. Personally, I think kiffin is really good, and I want him gone ASAPQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
ETA... on the other hand, if anyone would bring back art briles, it would be OM.
I almost expect them to fire Kermit this year, and go get pitino
I'd say Kiffin as a coach is on par with Freeze - but more likable and more honest (yes that was scary to type). But, I don't think he will recruit the way OM's nutty fans want and his record will be up and down. He's definitely a thousand steps up from Luke.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
This is accurate on all points. Lane doesn't like recruiting and is always gonna depend on portal/transfer guys, and that's gonna be hit or miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I think freeze is better bc of recruiting. Hopefully, lane doesn't become the Chris beard of college football with transfers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
The problem with this line of thinking is that Oklahoma doesn't have a lot of options at this point. And winning is always numero Uno. He has an identical record to Rikey this year in only year 2 at Ole Miss with less talent in a tougher conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
OU is blue blood with a lot of money. Kiffin is not the only guy they could hire away from a school. Beyond one season with Corrall his overall resume is not that impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Name all the guys they can get that have a better resumeQuote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
I?m sure they have a list. First of all I don?t think OU would hire Kiffin, second of all with OUs resources if they are going to pry a head coach away from a school, they aren?t limited to Lane Kiffin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
I think Kiffin is a little hyped up by some on here because he?s at Ole Miss. I saw a lot of comments on other boards that said ?why would you hire a guy that?s been fired for two P5 jobs based on one season where Matt Corrall fell into his lap?........that perception is out there along with Kiffins somewhat checkered past. A blue blood like OU isn?t going to hire Kiffin IMO. Miami, well that?s a good match for Kiffin. They would hire Charles Manson if he could win some games.
Is Kendell Briles a target for anyone?
Kiffin isn't getting the blue blood jobs attention because he can't coach. He's not getting the interest because they don't think they can trust him. Most AD's like routine & boring they don't want to worry about what someone is tweeting or a sound bite. The "cool" things that OM fans love now are the exact things that give blue blood AD's pause. They see those things & say he hasn't grown up at all he's still a childish loose cannon. He's matured just not enough.
If I was the LSU AD, I?d be on the phone to Art Briles and his agent, probably would have been 6 weeks ago to be honest.
Most accurate post in this whole thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
You would be out of a job the next week tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Op4isabitch
Art Briles is a good coach, a real sleazy dirtbag, but he wins games. LSU fan base wouldn’t care about crimes committed under his watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Op4isabitch
Why? He was cleared of all wrong doing and can coach football as well as anyone. What am I missing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Well apparently all the crap that has been going on overthere has been swept under the rug So Art would fit in nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
It's a reason he can't get a D2 jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Op4isabitch
LSU hires him, one season they are back to 10 wins. All of his last “indiscretions” would be forgotten and LDU would be back in the hunt for a Championship, which is all they care about in redstick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Op4isabitch
This. Briles is radioactive and maybe for the rest of his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
We'll never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Op4isabitch
If Cincy makes the playoffs, I could see OU making Luke Fickell an offer he can’t refuse......despite his claims he’s staying at Cincy. LSU could do the same but I don’t think LSU is going to be that patient. He’d be a great hire for either job, as would Matt Campbell.
Fickell is the northern Napier. He's waiting on specific jobs and OK isn't one of them. He'll never come south.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate
I bet Kiffin stays with OM
If he doesn?t, I could see OM promoting Lebby or getting Kendall Briles from Arky
So I'm thinking on this one some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Kiffin may not can coach I guess but in his 9 full seasons of coaching he's won 10 games 4 times. And he just equaled Mullen's best SEC year in his 2nd year at OM. Now all that is with predecessors' recruits for most part I will admit. But he still has to coach them.
And I'm not sure sound bites or twitter causes ADs to pause as much as it's probably the extra-curricular stuff of legend they're more concerned with happening again.
That's just my take. You're privy to a lot more inside info than most of us on here are tho.
Especially if no one offers. I think Miami is the only place that could possibly offer & that's after firing Manny & Cristobal saying no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha