Ha! I just told my son same thing. Jimbo is a way better recruiter than Dan though.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
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Ha! I just told my son same thing. Jimbo is a way better recruiter than Dan though.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Somehow you guys are missing the single most important element of being a college coach, recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
Yeah, but saban would suck without the great players he signed**
Must be? Jimbo is High Freeze on a taller soap box. Same BS persona and sleaziness. I?ll tell you where jimbo will be when he meets his makers. Gonna need some ice. Ask him about covering for crab legs Jamis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
That?s why as a lifelong Saints fan the organization would bring on such a cancer. Police
Reports and public records are that, public. Shit on the Saints too. Everyone all around needs to apologize for anyone else with a brain. Sadly fewer and fewer these days.
I have no idea about his personal life, and I don't care at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Wish I were more of a human disaster multi-millionaire
Again you make my point. Only major program in a talent rich state. This isnt hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Burrow was a cast off, and O and brady turned him into #1 pick heisman winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
Brady moreso and he had an elite D coordinator. Please continue making my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The point you are missing is that these guys all caught lightning in a bottle with one or two special players and they couldn?t maintain the success. Some got fired others moved on and can?t repeat that success. They all sucked millions from the respective programs. A perverted and upside down system.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Burrow was there before brady. O got burrow! O got brady! You don't have the burrow-brady combo without O!Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
Why is it so hard for this board to give credit where it's due? O won that natty, and then O deserved to be fired 2 years later.
They set the lightning rod in place though. They got the pieces to win big.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Do Chizik now. Just to complete it.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sorta like Leach being a good coach and Will being a good QB?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He got cam. He absolutely won it. College is all about who you put on your team. If Bill Belichick came to college and couldn't recruit, he wouldn't win crap at a national level.Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
And I realized I was wrong, and I gave credit where it was deserved. To just hold your nuts on someone is dumb just bc you don't like em or wanna be wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Relax. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is. O is not an elite coach. LSU is a gold mine of a job. So I give O credit for being competent enough to recruit and hire assistants.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He's not an elite coach. I never said that. To give him no credit for getting a natty is ridiculous thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by BayouDawg
I agree and you did. I kinda agree with you on O too. He won a Natty 2 years ago, I wouldn't be firing him this soon myself. Kinda dumb if you ask me. See if he can find right combo of coordinators again.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Pittman is working good but if he loses Briles & Odom he'll be in same boat.
Sure he gets some credit but my point was that the LSU job is a place where lesser coaches can win it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The OP said Jimbo is not an elite coach. I don't think anyone said these coaches don't get credit for winning a natty but just were making the point that doesn't make them elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I think Jimbo is head and shoulders above O and Chizik but I still think there's an argument for him not being elite.
I also think there's an argument for only Saban being elite so that kinda limits the field.
I really hope LSU hires Jimbo, lol. We'll probably go .500 against him there.
He also got a natty bc of an all time fluke play that allowed FSU to face Auburn instead of an all-time great Bama team.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
These are my elite coaches since 2000: Pete Carroll, Mac brown (for a stretch at texas early 2000s), urban Meyer, saban, and daboQuote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
He’s pure snakeoil
Throw the fluke play out, it's still a tie game, so not sure how you credit bama the winQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Yeah facing jimbo doesn't strike fear in your heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I think that's a pretty accurate list.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I meant current elite so we kind of agree. Clemson's season this year kind of stains Dabo but I can't really argue against it. I think Kirby joins the list of current elites with a natty this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Also, Mac Brown still coaching is impressive but when you realize Saban is the same age Saban becomes even more impressive.
I think Kirby could be getting there too. He's close to joining that group.
Smart has had saban beat twice on the biggest stage, and he lost both of them. I feel like Georgia is the much better team this year, but I'm not sure Kirby can get over the saban mountain
Gonna be fun to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I heard that in the post game tonight when they asked Jimbo about how he felt about the loss to LSU he said "I have ranches in Texas"***
Bc Bama was the better team, and the better team usually wins in OT...as they did tonight. No guarantee, obviously, but it's not a bad assumption to make, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Jimbo has always been an average coach. That's all he's ever gonna be. I'll always remember laughing at the aTm contract they gave him.
I agree. Hard to argue against that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24