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Failing? How you say that and see this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static...9,420,971.html
What's failing is the lack of trust in this world. If everyone had gotten this vaccine thousands would still be alive today.
send me a link that proves that please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
since you have not been so kind to link, I googled this myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Fauci, said we weren't funding stuff that we may have been funding is what I found. Wow, now it's all Fauci's fault? I would not be surprised in the least if China or others were looking at a way to kill off all the weak of this world to solve some $$$ issues but as of right now, I see no proof. Send me a link if you got it.
This board is full of people that think they are smarter than our best and most trained doctors who say we need to get vaccinated. We got football message board posters saying the vaccine is failing when the facts say the opposite.
Don't believe me, go see your doctor. If that dude says don't get vaccinated, then go with it.
My doctor told me not to get it at least for now. Bc I had one shot and then got covid. I went to two different doctors and both told me don't take the second shot bc we don't know enough about it yet to know how my body will react after having covid, and that all of the data says I am more protected than double vaxed who have not had covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
Yet i will be fired if my employer is forced to require me to take the vaccine per Biden's orders. That's messed up.
Here you go Chopper:
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/09/...tion-research/
Here’s another:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...627351%3famp=1
Trust!? We should trust a govt that admittedly is going against the advice of its own cdc experts!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
We should trust a govt that is targeting employers by penalizing those who don't force their employees to take the shot but that refuses to require people receiving govt entitlements to take the shot, meaning that if you're employed you must take the shot, but if you are not employed and rely on the govt to live you dont? Please. Trust went out the window a long time ago.
There are numerous emails and other correspondence directly from Fauci out there for you to read. You can, literally, read it for yourself directly from him. One day you'll realize you're being lied to and all that's happening is turning millionaires into billionaires.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
Yep, the same gov't who does not require members of Congress, the White House or the illegals coming in to be vaccinated. The same gov't who is still blocking planes from landing in the US with abandoned Americans on board from Afghanistan. Quite the trustworthy bunch this group of idiots isQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
There are plenty of Drs and other hc workers who have preferred losing their jobs over getting the vaccine. Not saying they're right or wrong. Just saying, not a great point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
Fauci oversaw antibiotics pumped out like candy while his wife peddled pharma. I knew better cuz 17 the NY Times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
The Lemmings are calling; a cliff awaits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
Ding ding.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrKotter
OH, I have seen emails. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57336280Quote:
Originally Posted by MrKotter
You see what you want to see in those emails. You can spin them to what ever narrative you want them to say.
This is absolutely the first thing we can agree upon. The unvaccinated are dying by the dozens everyday in Mississippi, jumping right off that cliff.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
you had Covid and you have had a shot. You probably are more protected than any of us. People that have had Covid, their ability to fight it off does seem to go away but if they get the vaccine on top of it, you guys should be almost bullet proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I think it's so much we don't know but we do know if people get vaccinated they don't get as sick even if they get it. I wouldn't get the 2nd shot either if your doctor said wait. I am not sure about these mandates either. It should be between you and your doctor but I will say there have been mandates for vaccines for generations of school children.
Let's something clear.
My mother is 92 and had a severe allergic reaction to the flu vaccine about 10 years ago. She is no longer capable of making decisions for herself due to dementia. My siblings and I have decided not to get her vaccinated because we fear it would kill her. She only weighs 72lbs and is very weak. This vaccine is not for everyone but spreading lies about it via social media is wrong.
You want to know what to do, make an appointment with real doctor and talk with them and don't take your advice from me or anyone else on the internet, including Joe Rogan.
You realize Dr's are prescribing Ivermectin at about 100K scripts per week dont you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
I agree with this. I support the vaccine, but It's not a one size fits all for everybody. That to me is the key. And what makes America what it is. Biden is screwing up with mandate and it's going to cost him and his party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
And also ivermectin won a Nobel prize for its use in humans. The rewriting of history by the media is truly astounding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
You do realize that it's less than 5% of doctors prescribing that? And you do realize half of that number have set themselves up as a pill mill to feed off people like you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Ivermectin does not work. I'm sorry. I wish it did. Doctors are making a complete mockery of the profession if they are still prescribing it. That is not debatable.
The country of India is giving it to their citizens in their Covid care package. Countries in Africa that prescribe it on the reg have the best Covid numbers on the planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
And now you have Pfizer developing a knockoff to make millions.
You dont know the answer of debatable either I see
And there's a reason...Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/...mectin-hacked/
Indian and Africa....are these typically pinnacles of medical expertise and development, let alone anything else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Wellllll- they are having success sooooooo.....Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
So has China, I suppose.**Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
BOOMQuote:
Originally Posted by MrKotter
No way he gets re-elected unless the Republicans do something stupid like nominate Trump again.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Hey why not move to India or Africa if you think they've got it figured out, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Hot rock gave you good advice. Go see a real doctor. Don't be too blinded politically to be able to make the most informed decisions for yourself. I've met a number of people that wish they did.
I know 30 plus surgeons I have worked with- including one of the best Max-Face guys in the world. I have all the medical advice I need.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
I literally worked in hospitals and with Dr's for a decade. I'm good
Including the guy who got his "medicine" from the local Tractor Supply, lol? And you can say this with a straight face....Yeah, I'm sure you're getting the best medical advice available, from the best people in the world, lol. Certainly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
That's quite the flex, considering your previous statements.
there are smart doctors all over. Met many of them in Peru.. They helped my son big time when he was 2 when we were down there and had an asthma attack. My wife's cousin is a great dentist down there. My friend whose wife is also Peruvian goes down there every year and gets a colonoscopy every few years down there cuz the total cash price is less than his deductible here in Texas and he digs his doc down there. Trusts him with his ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I made a post talking about a millionaire farmer- so the fact that I have access to numerous doctors is moot? I dont understand. I have access to one of the best 10 ortho surgeons in the country. I'm lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I don't know what else to tell you. You're either lying or talking to the wrong ones. Make sure if you ever end up in the hospital with covid they do two things: not stop the ivermectin and consult OMFS to help you out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
No- the Dr's I know are outstanding and damn good at what they do. One thing you can count on- I wont die of Covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
Alot of Dr's know what a power/money grab looks like
Never trust a high school football coach for medical advice, they got some cheerleader to do their homework. Go see a real doctor and discuss this. Orthopedic surgeons are not infectious diseases experts but they are probably better than Joe Rogan. Make a real appointment, see a real doctor that has actually studied the area you want to address. They are not perfect but they are best we got. I watched my wife die and my daughter, one to heart issues and the other cancer and doctors could not help them. They won’t be perfect but they are what we have, that and prayer. Never look at a message board or social media for medical advice. I say get vaccinated from the data available but I am but a layman too. Talk with a real doctor.
No doubt. There are great doctors, scientists, and people in general from all over the world. I didn't mean to insinuate otherwise with my post, so my bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
That being said, concerning this topic, there is a reason such little support amongst the overall medical/scientific community exists, and it's not because they're victims of some grand conspiracy...
But in this day and age, conspiracies definitely put asses in the seats.
I know the horse paste talking point is catchy and all but it is also used in humans quite often. It even won a Nobel prize for its use in humans.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
The vaccine ain't cheap, they are making billions off it. antibody stuff works as do other treatments that they try to stop. I know as many or more vaccinated people getting antibody treatment than unvaccinated people. All the numbers are a lie too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
I ain't against a vaccine for people that need it but most people don't need it to do fine with Covid. Why are all the vaccinated people so scared? They are protected right? No one has answered this question yet.
https://stream.org/fauci-funded-wuha...ocuments-show/Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rock
Man no one is trying to stop the antibody treatments now. Why? Because the data shows it helps. There is criteria to get the antibody infusion whether you are vaccinated or not. That doesn't mean the vaccine doesn't help your chances. I guess I don't understand the logic that someone is so much less skeptical of an entire infusion of stuff than the vaccine. It's purely political influence clouding judgement. Both are the best tools we have to fight this thing to date. Anyone telling you otherwise is getting their information from the wrong place.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg