Has nothing to do with football but we are recognized around the country as a "baseball school", it just is Gun. There is nothing wrong with this statement. Best thing for Msu football is we are in the Sec which is known for for football and baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
But that's the thing, we all love baseball, but it's not watched around the country. For a national brand, you've got to play football wellQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Current recognition is what it is for now due to the recent natty. The football fanbase is so much bigger though and that's where the money is. Watch us go on a solid football run however and your opinion will change overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I think that is more of an opinion than a factQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
6 million viewers for Auburn/MSU in 2014 https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/201...ll-viewership/Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
6.6 million viewers for MSU/LSU in 2020 https://www.si.com/college/mississip...v-rating-92920
College World Series viewers average 755K per game & likely mostly the same people each game. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/202...lb-uefa-euros/
conclusion, I love college baseball, but, if we want to build our brand & school, we've simply got to compete in football .
Jumping in here late, but I got WAYYYY more comments, in my current town in GA, for being #1 in football, than I have since we won a Natty in baseball. Like 10-1. Sorry, football and even basketball mean more to most of the country. TruthQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
No I was talking about the end zone being ugly bc its not bowled in. It looks fine to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Football absolutely pays the bills we agree there
Guys again, I am not arguing baseball is more important than football. I am arguing the stadium is fine and yall are over reacting. We need a football only top notch IPF to match the rest of our facilities
Except the stadium is NOT fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I like what you did with the Junction. That is just a lot of wasted green space. Tailgating is passe?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
100% agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
That is an opinion not a factQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
I guess it boils down to whether or not you care if we're competitive or not in the West. Dude goes on crootin visits and we are the only open end zone. That sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
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To back up Shotgun (yes, football is more important), more people watched us in the freakin' armed forces bowl than the college world series championship game 3. And it wasn't close.
Baseball is fun, but nationally it means little compared to football or basketball.
"Wednesday’s deciding Game 3 of the College World Series final (Mississippi State-Vanderbilt) averaged a tournament-high 1.67 million viewers on ESPN2, down a relatively modest 16% from the 2019 Game 3 on ESPN (Vanderbilt-Michigan: 2.00M). Game 2, the only game of the final to air on ESPN, averaged 1.41 million (-28%)."
12/31, Noon Armed Forces: MSST-TULSA ESPN 1.4 +17% 2.25M (viewers)
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/202...lb-uefa-euros/
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/col...ll-tv-ratings/
never would have thought more watched our bowl game vs natty game.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Wait a minute... I thought it was here for goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Medic601
The NBA finals being moved back and thus the CWS being moved to ESPN2 had a lot to do with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
I dont think kids give a shit about open end zones or not. Matter of fact I know they dontQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Some, but not much....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Game 3 of the 2019 College World Series (On ESPN, no NBA competition) drew 2,020,596 viewers. Still less than our Armed Forces Bowl appearance.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...ship-for-espn/
If you take your maroon glasses off and look at college baseball its a minor sport. No fanbase loves it as much as we do and very, very few even come close. It's no surprise at all than the bowl game had more TVs tuned in than the baseball final.
I love baseball, it's fun, the CWS was awesome. But football pulls the wagon and it's not remotely close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Our stadium is currently better than that of Vandy, Ole Miss, and Mizzou. If we just simply bowled-in the SEZ our position in the SEC stadiums probably stays the same spot. I'd rather wait and do something innovative but see if fan support warrants such an investment first. I see a lot of people making excuses not to go to games, and that's not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
You guys are missing the point, no one is saying Baseball is the most important sport and we all know football pays the bills. But Msu is a Baseball School, nothing wrong with this being the case! Wake me up when football at Msu dominates like baseball, and it ain't the stadium, it's about quality Coaches who can recruit and coach guys up!
Wouldn?t it make more sense to close it in and to reconfigure the whole stadium with chairback seats all the way around the lower bowl, cutting seating capacity back down to around 60,000 max? 18,000 on each side and 12,000 corner to corner in each end?
Wasn't there a logistics problem with this and they couldn't do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
UGA's last natty was baseball. Were they saying then they were now going to be a baseball school? I would even bet their hoops never sacrified $1 after the baseball natty. I'm sure we definitely prioritize baseball more than anybody else when looking at Athletic Budgets and the perentages I would assume. From a fan pride angle, yep, we are a baseball school. But to just say "We are a baseball school" makes as much sense as saying Amazon is a book bidness.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Having an open end zone in the SEC makes you look weak. Reduce northern capacity and bowl in the south. It would improve the aesthetics X 100 and help crootin' X 100.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Not even a close comparison. Georgia caught lightning in a bottle that year. We?ve been good a long time and so many Msu folks say ?can?t wait till baseball starts?.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
good catch and you make sense. It's definitely, especially now the sport that brings tons of more fan pride than the other 2. I still say our next investment needs to bowl in that ugly south endzone. Football has and will always be the financial foundation of our Athl Dept.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Only way I see bowling the south end zone is how much the Pirate wins the next few years. We don’t necessarily need mor seating right now. Like someone stated the east stands need improvements like the west side.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Gonna be interesting to see how many season tickets are sold this year.
I’m not seeing a hotel wanting to invest in south end zone. Why would they want something that only is attractive except a few weeks out of the year. Not sure basketball or even. Aseball would attract much attention for them.
Good points. Starting the project tomorrow would be a bad look and ill-advised. A decision needs to be made after this year; one way or the other pending on field results.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Let’s see how this year goes. Also the Hump needs improvements. Btw I’d rather see indoor practice facility for football before work on the south end zone. Maybe Dak will contribute and we put his statue in front.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
That's an interesting take. I would like to know about our IPF, how it compares to others and what the current drawbacks are. Oh, and yes, I'm a dumbass on these matters. But I do remember Tuberville holding practice in a parking lot. I jerked to it. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Doing that would certainly be nice, but ticket prices would have to increase substantially via seat access fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
No, they wouldn't HAVE to.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Reduce North endzone capacity? How? Why? That's the new part of the stadium and the only part that makes ours better than the ones I mentioned. Bowling in didn't do shit for Ole Miss because they did it to increase capacity over Davis-Wade. Mission accomplished and nothing gained but more empty benches. I want something that others will want to copy, just like with NEZ. That was innovative.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Ask any fan or Athletic Department Head how they would feel if they would like to tear down an endzone and replace it with a Davis Wade Southern zone. I don't accept Bush League attitudes and our endzone looks like total shit. First Impressions and Shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
What the hell are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
We really need to cut the top off the west side and make it match the East. The top tier is terrible and press box is last due for an upgrade.
However if we are air castling, I want to tear the whole thing down and build and English soccer type stadium. Such as Emirates but top capacity at 65K.
Something should be done with the south end zone. I feel like it was a mistake to do the scoreboard club on the north. We should have left that part off and put that money to the south end zone. Auburns stadium was like that before they expanded.
What part of "looks like total shit" do you not understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops