Tracking the 2022 MSU Baseball Roster

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07-02-2021, 05:29 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by TNDawg35

Don’t be surprised if McCants is in Starkville next year. He was a 1st rounder, but has slowly slipped down. With the Natty, it has become apparent that he really wants to come to school and play against his brother.

We are getting to the point where Lemonis is just reloading with “his” guys and not just filling holes. It’s a new era…

He was never graded as a first rounder. That was woods. And he would come and sit. Not ready for sec pitching. Meaning woods isn't.
07-02-2021, 05:47 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah I've heard we have a real shot getting mccants on campus. He would be a big pull.

If McCants comes to school, I think he has a chance to start at 2B
07-02-2021, 07:49 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Bruns is gone.

Bruns is a possible Canadian is how the MLB scouting report reads ... the report implies Bruns Needs low stakes development not SEC starts at a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP program like MSU.

Plus his HS coach gave him this advice.

"Maddux and I have talked about it, but it was on his terms,? he said. ?My message to him was, ?It just depends on what you want to do. If your goal is to play major league baseball, then you need to get started as soon as you can.? That?s my advice. ?If you want to play at State for three years, that is good, too. But you can get an education anytime. You can get an education online.? It just depends on what his goal is and what he wants to do. If his goal is big-league ball, he needs to get in as quick as he can."

The coach also implies Bruns is a 1 pitch guy. Fastball with a curve when he has to. The coach was Tanner Allen's coach too. Decent article.

https://www.al.com/highschoolsports/...dux-bruns.html
07-02-2021, 08:48 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Bruns is a possible Canadian is how the MLB scouting report reads ... the report implies Bruns Needs low stakes development not SEC starts at a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP program like MSU.

Plus his HS coach gave him this advice.

"Maddux and I have talked about it, but it was on his terms,? he said. ?My message to him was, ?It just depends on what you want to do. If your goal is to play major league baseball, then you need to get started as soon as you can.? That?s my advice. ?If you want to play at State for three years, that is good, too. But you can get an education anytime. You can get an education online.? It just depends on what his goal is and what he wants to do. If his goal is big-league ball, he needs to get in as quick as he can."

The coach also implies Bruns is a 1 pitch guy. Fastball with a curve when he has to. The coach was Tanner Allen's coach too. Decent article.

https://www.al.com/highschoolsports/...dux-bruns.html

Horrible advice. Statistics now show your odds are better going to college first.
07-02-2021, 08:57 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Horrible advice. Statistics now show your odds are better going to college first.

Absolutely, you're more likely to be a high draft pick as a pitcher out of college than high school. Hitters are a different story.
07-02-2021, 08:57 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Horrible advice. Statistics now show your odds are better going to college first.

Yes, that is true unless you really lose location and you need multiple years of A ball. Of course, you take the player as a college but this does not read like he is ready to be Leiter, Rocker, or Alex Lange next spring.

Read this:

"Gatorade's Alabama high school player of the year, Bruns made a huge splash at the Perfect Game National showcase last June, reaching 97 mph with his fastball and displaying two quality breaking balls. He never approached that performance the rest of the summer as his control disintegrated to the point where he had innings rolled over at multiple events. He's doing a better job of finding the plate this spring and has more pure stuff than any prep left-hander available, though he's still an extreme risk/reward play."

"he doesn't look completely comfortable and stills wings balls off the backstop. Some scouts think his stuff can be good enough to make him a big league starter with below-average control, while others worry he could max out as a reliever difficult to trust in high-leverage situations."

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/
07-02-2021, 11:22 PM
TNDawg35

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Yes, that is true unless you really lose location and you need multiple years of A ball. Of course, you take the player as a college but this does not read like he is ready to be Leiter, Rocker, or Alex Lange next spring.

Read this:

"Gatorade's Alabama high school player of the year, Bruns made a huge splash at the Perfect Game National showcase last June, reaching 97 mph with his fastball and displaying two quality breaking balls. He never approached that performance the rest of the summer as his control disintegrated to the point where he had innings rolled over at multiple events. He's doing a better job of finding the plate this spring and has more pure stuff than any prep left-hander available, though he's still an extreme risk/reward play."

"he doesn't look completely comfortable and stills wings balls off the backstop. Some scouts think his stuff can be good enough to make him a big league starter with below-average control, while others worry he could max out as a reliever difficult to trust in high-leverage situations."

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/

Sounds like a left handed Cerantola...
07-02-2021, 11:24 PM
ImissCityBagel

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

Any MSU Alum that runs a business, pony up and sponsor some of these kids to convince them it's worthwhile to come to MSU instead of the draft.

Halfway joking...

Starkville really needs a baseball-themed restaurant that sells old-fashioned hot dogs, peanuts, and has an MSU baseball ambiance. I'd give that a substantial investment. Maybe call it "Omadogs" if that isn't trademarked.
07-03-2021, 12:12 AM
MaroonFlounder

Nobody has listed or mentioned Dakota Jordan. He must be a '23 guy?
07-03-2021, 12:53 AM
ScoobaDawg

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Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder

Nobody has listed or mentioned Dakota Jordan. He must be a '23 guy?

He's class of 22.
07-03-2021, 12:57 AM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Horrible advice. Statistics now show your odds are better going to college first.

This isn't true. Many kids turn down millions out of HS only to get hardly anything out of college. More college guys are drafted because they ask for less money & thus more get to the big leagues, but I'd bet you'd find the HS kids that get 7+ figures are pretty damn good.
07-03-2021, 04:34 AM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

His name is Jess Davis.

SOPHOMORE SEASON (2021)
- Appeared and started in all 54 games
- Batted .258 with 48 hits, 39 runs, seven doubles, one triple, three home runs and 30 RBIs
- Held a perfect fielding percentage with 186 putout and one assist in center field
- Had a season-high four hits versus Alabama A&M on Feb. 26, also drove in three runs during the game
- Second on the team with 23 steals on the season
- Has 77 career stolen bases, which is third all-time in program history

SOPHOMORE SEASON (2020)
- Season cut short due to the COVID-19 pandemic
- Appeared and started in all 16 games
- .290 batting average with 20 hits, 11 runs, five doubles, one triple, one home run and 12 RBIs
- Had a .435 slugging percentage and .342 on-base percentage
- Held a .955 fielding percentage with 41 putouts and one assist

FRESHMAN SEASON (2019)
- Appeared in all 56 games, starting in 54 of them
- Selected to the Conference USA All-Freshman Team
- Finished second in the country and led the conference with 48 stolen bases on the year
- Second most hits (64) and doubles (14) for the Blazers on the season
- Batted .296 with five home runs, 34 RBI and 50 runs scored
- Tallied a career-high four hits in a 4-for-5 effort with a homerun, an RBI and two runs scored in an 11-4 series-clinching win at FIU (5/5)
- Had 12 multi-steal games, highlighted by swiping a career-high five bags on five attempts in a 13-5 win over SIUE (2/16) to finish a sweep
-Went 3-for-4 with two RBI and three runs scored on top of the five steals in the final game of the SIUE series
-Also stole four bases on four attempts in both wins over Alabama State (2/27, 5/1)
- Posted a .970 fielding percentage
- Named to the Conference USA Commissioner?s Academic Honor Roll

Thank God it's Jess and not Jeff. Lol
07-03-2021, 06:03 AM
BiscuitEater

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Originally Posted by ImissCityBagel

Starkville really needs a baseball-themed restaurant that sells old-fashioned hot dogs, peanuts, and has an MSU baseball ambiance. I'd give that a substantial investment. Maybe call it "Omadogs" if that isn't trademarked.

Current photos of players, allow $$ for them!
07-03-2021, 09:52 AM
SilentSteel16

So does that mean Abners is about to go broke?
07-03-2021, 09:55 AM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Thank God it's Jess and not Jeff. Lol

So the outfielder pool is:

Clark, Cumbest, McDonald, Skinner, McGowan, J Davis, Corder

Clark and Cumbest should level up by a peg or two

McGowan, Skinner, and McDonald should be much better

Corder is a Hitter, 100 points better than firmer CUSA POY Luke Reynolds at Hinds
07-03-2021, 03:07 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Absolutely, you're more likely to be a high draft pick as a pitcher out of college than high school. Hitters are a different story.

Hey commerce, this reminds me of something I heard a while back that its harder to pitch to aluminum because the batter has a better chance of getting around on the inside pitch. So once they start pitching to wood, they find some extra zone to work with.. So if you are a great college pitcher, your already a proven commodity. Batters on the other hand have more to prove in adjusting to wood. Does this sound right?
07-03-2021, 05:21 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

Hey commerce, this reminds me of something I heard a while back that its harder to pitch to aluminum because the batter has a better chance of getting around on the inside pitch. So once they start pitching to wood, they find some extra zone to work with.. So if you are a great college pitcher, your already a proven commodity. Batters on the other hand have more to prove in adjusting to wood. Does this sound right?

Pretty accurate. Pitching inside aluminum bats don't break and hitters can get cheap hits, happened a few times during cws. And it's a big adjustment for hitters from aluminum to wood.
07-03-2021, 06:40 PM
KOdawg1

This should be a kid that makes it to campus

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07-03-2021, 07:00 PM
TNDawg35

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

This should be a kid that makes it to campus

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How did we pull him out from under LSU??
07-03-2021, 07:22 PM
99jc

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Originally Posted by TNDawg35

How did we pull him out from under LSU??

We ARE College baseball that's how.
07-03-2021, 07:29 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by 99jc

We ARE College baseball that's how.

This and we're kinda of a throwback team. Lot of talented kids out there that want that culture.
07-03-2021, 07:40 PM
OLJWales

So Jack Walker is not considering the draft? Solid offers from other power houses?
07-03-2021, 07:46 PM
Saltydog

Mabye it's just me but I'm not that impressed with Jess Davis. Good glove, sure but we're going to need some sticks and if he's only hitting .258 against the competition he's been facing what's he gonna hit in the SEC. We've got a decent glove in Skinner but he can't hit. Why bring in the same thing?
07-03-2021, 07:54 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Mabye it's just me but I'm not that impressed with Jess Davis. Good glove, sure but we're going to need some sticks and if he's only hitting .258 against the competition he's been facing what's he gonna hit in the SEC. We've got a decent glove in Skinner but he can't hit. Why bring in the same thing?

Davis had an off year this year because of some nagging injuries but he played every game and stole 28 bases. Last year he hit 290, year before hit 296, has good obp doesn't strike out much and stole 48 bases the year he hit 296(stole 6 last year in the shortened season).
07-03-2021, 07:55 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by OLJWales

So Jack Walker is not considering the draft? Solid offers from other power houses?

He's coming off a TJ surgery so I think scouts want him to come to college, get stronger, and do well vs. SEC hitting. He's going to be a steal.
07-03-2021, 07:57 PM
Saltydog

I've got an in at UAB. I'll see what I can find out......
07-03-2021, 09:07 PM
Catfish

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07-04-2021, 01:06 AM
OLJWales

We can safely assume Lemonis has evaluated Davis and accept his decision.
07-04-2021, 01:18 AM
Hambone

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Originally Posted by Saltydog

Mabye it's just me but I'm not that impressed with Jess Davis. Good glove, sure but we're going to need some sticks and if he's only hitting .258 against the competition he's been facing what's he gonna hit in the SEC. We've got a decent glove in Skinner but he can't hit. Why bring in the same thing?

After what Lemonis and company did this year you have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Hell, if they announced that Gene Swindoll was signing to be our clean up hitter then by all means, get ready!
07-04-2021, 01:37 AM
OLJWales

I realize the concerns but Team Lemonis deserves leeway at this juncture. Commerce is a humble gentleman that prolly is one of the most knowledgeable baseball person on this board.
07-04-2021, 02:56 AM
preachermatt83

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

He's coming off a TJ surgery so I think scouts want him to come to college, get stronger, and do well vs. SEC hitting. He's going to be a steal.

Yessir he is. He very well could be a closer for us
07-04-2021, 08:24 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

Bruns is a possible Canadian is how the MLB scouting report reads ... the report implies Bruns Needs low stakes development not SEC starts at a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP program like MSU.

Plus his HS coach gave him this advice.

"Maddux and I have talked about it, but it was on his terms,? he said. ?My message to him was, ?It just depends on what you want to do. If your goal is to play major league baseball, then you need to get started as soon as you can.? That?s my advice. ?If you want to play at State for three years, that is good, too. But you can get an education anytime. You can get an education online.? It just depends on what his goal is and what he wants to do. If his goal is big-league ball, he needs to get in as quick as he can."

The coach also implies Bruns is a 1 pitch guy. Fastball with a curve when he has to. The coach was Tanner Allen's coach too. Decent article.

https://www.al.com/highschoolsports/...dux-bruns.html

I guess I just have a different perspective than this HS coach. I don't think a guy should ever skip his college experience unless he is being offered life changing money out of HS that he risks never seeing again if he doesn't take it. I say that because you only get one chance to have the college experience (sorry, online education is not the same) and better develop as a well rounded human being. There is much more to life than just baseball EVEN for baseball players trying to play professionally. Going straight out of HS to the minor league life where you are just playing baseball and traveling all the time with mostly guys much older and only focused on sports is really not the best way for an 18 to 20 year to mature into life, its just not.
07-04-2021, 08:38 AM
maroonmania

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

This isn't true. Many kids turn down millions out of HS only to get hardly anything out of college. More college guys are drafted because they ask for less money & thus more get to the big leagues, but I'd bet you'd find the HS kids that get 7+ figures are pretty damn good.

Goodness, there are 'many' kids turning down millions out of HS? I find that hard to believe but if its happening at all it must be primarily happening at a place like Vanderbilt that can basically provide 'extra benefits' legally while offering a prestigious degree. I know they have gotten several first rounders to come to school. As far as I know, JT Ginn is the only player in our entire baseball history that has ever turned down that kind of money to come to MSU.
07-04-2021, 11:20 AM
Offshore Dawg

so are some of you guys saying that the Dawgs could be better next year
07-04-2021, 11:28 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg

so are some of you guys saying that the Dawgs could be better next year

Depends on development of a few guys. Obviously TA and Rowdey are big losses that will be tough to replace, but we were a young team this year for the most part. Guys like LoTan, KJ, Kellum, and Forsythe get a summer and an off-season to get stronger and develop more as hitters. I think it will again come down to what our pitching staff looks like. We need Fristoe and Cade Smith to both take a step up next year and be weekend starters for us.
07-04-2021, 12:21 PM
Saltydog

Not sure that'll be the case.....I know we're hyped but let's be realistic, we have nobody to replace TA, RJ and WB......Sure, we have some serviceable guys that will get better but those are some big shoes to fill......
07-04-2021, 01:50 PM
smootness

Our lineup should be quite good, but we don't know if it will be good or very good. And we really have no idea what our rotation will look like or how good it will be. We should be a solid team at absolute worst and the potential is there to be very good, but we really just have no way of knowing at this point what kind of team we'll have.
07-04-2021, 02:23 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by smootness

Our lineup should be quite good, but we don't know if it will be good or very good. And we really have no idea what our rotation will look like or how good it will be. We should be a solid team at absolute worst and the potential is there to be very good, but we really just have no way of knowing at this point what kind of team we'll have.

It will be good, especially pitching- Fristoe, Cade, and Tepper are a high talent group AND you have a healthy Brandon.

You might get Harding and MacLeod back. With Sims, that's a very talented front 7.

If KC Hunt clicks In as expected, then it's another special pitching staff.

By the way, this is true for every team in the nation. Vandy without Leiter/Rocker, Hogs without Wiklander/Kopps, etc
07-04-2021, 03:12 PM
SilentSteel16

BTW at the beginning of the season we did not have Bednar penciled in. Let the chips fall and Lemo will figure it out. Can?t tell you how many times an Ace starts the year as Ace yet finished in the pen. Young arms coming in are stout. Same with the position players.
07-04-2021, 03:16 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by SilentSteel16

BTW at the beginning of the season we did not have Bednar penciled in. Let the chips fall and Lemo will figure it out. Can?t tell you how many times an Ace starts the year as Ace yet finished in the pen. Young arms coming in are stout. Same with the position players.

Yeah Lemonis adjusted everything from the pitching staff to the lineup til he got what he wanted. Love the fact he's not afraid to tinker early and play a lot of guys to find out what they can do and where they fit. He really does play the long game and sees things down the road instead of instant gratification. It's been amazing to watch him manage the roster and lineup.

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