A bunch of freshmen and walkons found a way to win a bowl game against a ranked team, enjoy it guys. We have a tough minded players who want to win and play as a team!
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A bunch of freshmen and walkons found a way to win a bowl game against a ranked team, enjoy it guys. We have a tough minded players who want to win and play as a team!
That's not a problem. In fact, it's a reward for the team to keep playing hard and grab the #1 seed rather than resting up once they know they're in the playoff. The 2 seeds would rarely lose to the 7s, but they would usually have a much harder game than the 1 seeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
And with the best G5 team included in the bracket, you never have people doubting the legitimacy of the champion.
If you want to take away our pick 6 then you have to take away our punt dribble. It evens out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I've read this theory a few times now, so I checked out avg starting field position.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
State: 10 possessions (threw out last one, recovered onside), avg starting possession was at state 32.5
Tulsa: 11 possessions, avg starting possession was at Tulsa 32.6
Virtually identical
It seemed like every time Tulu made a big return we got called for a block in the back. This happens a lot on returns (not just us) which I would normally rather take the ball at the 25. Of course Tulsa was only kicking to the ten yard line so you have to try the run back in those cases.
No matter how you guys see the game we beat a ranked team and we were the underdog according to Vegas. Mullen hardly ever won as an underdog ( I just throw that in to lengthen this thread).
It was state -1 at kickoff. We covered though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sienfield
I know it changed as the game time got closer but folks on here say that doesn't count.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I think that's probably right. Vegas considered Tulsa the favorite, and the public changed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sienfield
Fair point. But the scenarios presented change that chart and total yards. End of half we stopped drive and threw a Hail Mary. Last drive we sat on it to run clock bc they mathematically couldn't win without onside kick or our turnover. Forbes 90 yard TD removed a whole drive. Short field on first TD (marks goes for 65 instead of 30 on that TD run if we start on our 25).Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They moved the ball better no doubt though.
Mean vs median argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Also doesn't account for missing a whole drive on Forbes TD or game situation (sitting on the ball the last two possessions to run clock).
State: 58 plays 277 yds = 4.8 yds/playQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Tulsa: 86 plays 484 yds = 5.6 yds/play
I threw out our 2 kneels to end game.
Fact. We never trailed in this game.
Fact. 28-26
Fact. Leach is still your football coach.
Happy New Year!
Finishing out the year with a 2-game win streak vs decent teams is certainly a nice note to go out on. As I stated in shotgun's thread, I feel better about leach than I did midseason. I was disappointed in the offense yesterday though. I wanted to see us build on the really nice offensive game vs mizzou. Nevertheless, we won. Hopefully we start seeing more consistency next season from the offense. Happy new yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Jacknut
That's about what I figured and paints a more accurate picture of the game flow. Throw out the Hail Mary, makes 57 plays for 277 yards, or 4.85 yards a play. For reference, that would equate to 417 yards vs their 484 if same amount of plays are run. Bout what I'd expect bc they moved the ball a little better than we did, just stalled out in the red zone a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
4.85 is not good at all though. If we used these 2 avgs today, this is where they'd rank nationally...Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
4.85 = 107 out of 127
5.63 = tied for 67 out of 127
We finished year at #104 out of 127 at
4.92, so we were worse than normal.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2020/leader/...10/sort02.html
It was 35 degrees, raining the whole game, with a 15-20 mph north wind. It is no surprise both teams per play average was not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Johnson and marks averaged over 6 yards a carry combined (6.5 for one and 5.7 the other). Our backs rushed 23 times for 140 yards, over 6 yards a carry. I though that was encouraging. Showed progress.
Tulsa yesterday slightly raised their yds/play to 5.58 against the #4 defense in the sec in yds/play. We finished defensively at 5.4 yds/play for the season, so Tulsa raised that number in 35 degrees, rain, and wind.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I agree with your point, but the muffed punt helped their number a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
They threw and caught better than we did in the elements. No doubt. But they were also playing catch up and had to throw more, driving up yards per play. Especially late. It's why we forced turnovers too. Perfect example of the importance of game flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We still have a long ways to go to live up to the offensive guru status to be the vaunted "air raid". I agree with others, the run game the past two games is encouraging.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We sure do. Not surprised though. All of our playmakers on offense are true freshmen. Marks, Johnson, walley, Tulu, Rogers (guess you could count Heath and Austin Williams, but I don't think they are playmakers).Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Biggest question is whether Rogers is your future.
There were 2 things that impressed me yesterday from the offense:Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
1. I thought we looked solid running the ball.
2. After Tulsa scored a td to make it 21-19, we went 65 yards to answer them. Rogers was 5/6 on the drive. Johnson also converted a 3rd and 1 on the ground... loved that we ran on a running down, and we converted..
This is aging wellQuote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
Yep, we made the plays we had toQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
make when they had to be made, found a way to win, that's huge to me. All the years I coached baseball I always preached that one team will make the plays to win, so there's no excuses, just make the plays. There ain't no ugly wins.
Chances are this would have been a 8-3 G5 Vs 6-6 SEC if this was a normal season. We really had everything going against us in this game. We had to play way too many Freshman and had no way to relieve them during the game. Almost like Iron Man football.
Naw man. Don?t you know a bunch of freshmen who missed an entire spring and summer to learn an entirely new offense, should be racing up and down the field to 400-500 yards per game? The air raid should have immediately clicked with all these all sec receivers on the roster and a true freshman QBQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Oh and these **.
Did you forget about guys starting on defense that we had never heard of before?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Didn't tulsa play without the Nagurski Trophy winner?Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7