I figured some vague garbage quote was comingQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
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I figured some vague garbage quote was comingQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Shotgun, Will is more talented than Minshew. Ask Minshew. Minshew is in the NFL. Idk what you want
This. We?re a bowl team every year with Will. I want moreQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
No shot Will is more talented than Minshew. Minshew is stronger, quicker, and has a stronger arm.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I would never trust a player on evals. They typically have no awareness of what they’re looking at.
Only shrader was better at a pure passing stat, passer rating. Obviously this offense fits will much better than shrader. Shrader would've smoked will in Moorhead's offense. You were the one bringing up freshman passing records, so I just pointed out it's pure volume... shrader was a better freshman last year. You would cry a month if will get passed, and he will.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Holy sheet. You've completely got brain damage from Will's dick ramming your brainQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
He?ll get better but tools usually don?t change.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
No shot. See how that works?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
No. I just know bc I have seen it. And heard it. Both of them since they were in 7th grade.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Eat shit moneyball. Will is our QB just like I said he would and should be
Is Minshew stronger and thicker right now? Absolutely bc he mid 20s. Will is not even 20. But comparatively speaking Will is more talented. He has always had a stronger arm.
We’ll see in a few years. Just telling what I seeQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
To my point that will broke records on volume passing, he was tied for last in the country at yds/att af 5.8. Today, he was at 4.9 yds/att, so he's likely gonna finish the season dead last in this stat
Take your pure passing stats and eat it bc that is all it means. You are honest to God lying to yourself if you think Shrader is a better pure passer than Will. You are calling leach a dumbass basically by saying that. Pretty sure he knows more about pure passing and pure passing stats than youQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Another meaningless ass stat. Go tell Leach and see what he says about it. He will prolly tell you where to stick it tooQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I mean I just think youve got an axe to grind. I have clearly said I will support the best QB bc Leach will play the best one, but all you are doing is finding a way to cut down a class act kid that has made us better. And failing at it tbh
I thought we settled down the second half. First half we were letting them get to us a little and just played poorly on offense. Second half was much better. Defense didn't play great but they hit three turnovers and 5 sacks on a down day. That's pretty damn solid vs a top 25 team.
Maybe it is meaningless, but he's never had a qb go less than 6.3 yds/att until this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
You are schizophrenic. You said tulsa was garbage yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don't know any of these players personally, and I couldn't care less if any of them get passed up by a better player. Hell, I hope they all do. I don't worship any of themQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Shotgun, I fear you didn't get a Christmas card from the Rogers family and please don't blame it on record mail volume and sickness with many postal workers. Don't bother to look for a New Year's card, it ain't coming either!**** Hail State Family Through thick and thin!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
We agree there 100 percentQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Never started a true freshmen eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Will is 18 years old and straight out of High School.... Remember he took over mid season.... Give him a chance....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Me, nor shotgun are pulling against will. We both are hoping Sawyer brings another level of talent to the position though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimi's Babies
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Originally Posted by msstate7
Leach will play his best players. Not like the coaches that sent Holloway (although he had great heart and was all Dog), up the middle or benched Aries who always fell forward for extra yards and never tapped out. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Leach and Arnett both. They could care less what your "stars" were they want the best players out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
It's all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
They are. But they're ranked garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Haha, I do like you, cooterQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Will’s upside is going to be totally dependent on how much he can increase his arm strength. He’s never going to have a pure cannon but right now the 20+ yard throws are problematic and that’s pretty clear to the naked eye.
The windows get really tight with the defenses we are seeing and Tulsa really did a good job taking away Walley in the middle and we clearly struggled with outside throws. I’m sure the weather didn’t help but for him to really be a playmaker he’s going to have to be able to squeeze the ball in some places at times.
We will learn a lot next year. He’s going to pack on 15-20 pounds by next fall and it’s clearly his job to lose
I disagree about none of the safeties playing next year.
Collin Duncan has made some big plays down the stretch. His coverage skills have steadily improved all season, and he's got a couple of INTs to back it up.
You're right about the rest though. Fred Peters coming back next year will help a lot. Hopefully the portal can help us out too.
CJ Morgan is hopefully 100% and hopefully Janari Dean can help after returning from a meniscusQuote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
I agree on Duncan he's gotten better. Craft has been serviceable and will provide depth. Getting Peter's and Dean back will definitely help as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Of course they do. An arm can get stronger with work put in and physical maturity. Take a look at early MSU Dak. Would you have ever thought in 2012/2013 that he would be a top 8 QB in the NFL and could make all the throws? Rogers makes good decisions he just has to get in the weight room and put the work in.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Btw I have never met nor have any connections to the kid, it is just what I see with him. Either way with Rogers or Robertson we are gonna be fine at QB position for the next 5 years which is nice to know.
I still think Abraham is a dark horse next season. I really hope Sawyer is the man though bc that would mean he's the real deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
As commerce mentioned, the team got a W, learned to fight for a W and find a way in tough conditions. Learning to win cannot be underestimated for this young team.
I wouldn't count on CJ Morgan for much. He was slow before the injury. You usually don't come back faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Tulsas best players are Seniors... our best players are True Freshman.... we will Miss Errol Thompson - I don?t know if he will make it in NFL, but dude is a warrior.