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Will wouldn't have beaten Kentucky or Arkansas. You keep mentioning all the L's under will and making excuses. The truth is he only won 2 games. That's terrible and not a good or great Qb. Freshman Qbs are winning everywhere, why can't Will? No one cares about yards and stats. He's losing more than he's winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Good grief guys. Both of you are right in some ways. Both are good QBs. Corral has more arm talent. That not debatable. But he can be a head case and turn it over. Will is a good QB but he is a freshman and plays like it sometimes. The more experience he gets the better he will be. He may never surpass Corral's arm talent, but he may become a better QB. Will got lucky with some throws tonight and stared down to many receivers. But he will improve on all this I'm sure. Time will tell who will end up the better QB.
Where do you think he will go in the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
It's one game. Last week we looked terrible with two weeks to prepare. We're simply young and inconsistent. Next year that shouldn't be the case. The schedule tips in our favor next year too. 6-8 wins might be possible. This was just a weird, weird year.
That's a good question. My best answer is he will be drafted, which is pretty freaking good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Percho
He's coming back next year which will improve his draft stock. I suspect a 5th round type player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Percho
Are you related to Will? Serious question not trolling, I?ve just noticed you don?t really allow criticism of the kid... which I think is fair for a qb, it?ll just help him grow.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Meh. If he was a flat out baller he'd be going to the nfl. Like lawerence and fields. He's talented but has average decision making skills and has not shown the ability to read the whole field.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
By your measurements (losing more than winning), corral sucks. He lost 5 out of 9. And would have been 6 out of 10 had they played Aggie. Corral was 4-5 as a starter. Will was 2-3.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
OM also played the easiest schedule in the west statically.
They had 4 wins. They didn't beat anybody with a pulse all year. 0-10 vandy, 2-8 usce, 3-7 state, and 4-6 KY.
At least we beat 5-5 LSU and 5-5 Mizzou.
Someone remind me whatever happened to Javonta Payton? Opt out? Injured? I know Shavers is off the team but couldn't remember what happened with Payton.
They lost because of their terrible defense. They struggled to score 1 game against Arkansas and they still scored 21 points. We've struggled to score 21 points the majority of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
He threw for 2,700 yards 24 td's 9 ints and 187 passer rating. I'd say he's seeing the field just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
27td and 14ints....not sure how many fumbles.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Where'd you see 9 int?Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
And Bc he was a turnover machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Nobody is arguing he is enormously talented. He just has spurts where he makes horrible decisions. Otherwise he would be coming out in the draft as a top 3 round pick.
Really? Walley is much better than everyone they have other than Elijah Moore.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
Moore
Walley
Yaboah
Mingo
Heath when healthy
Drummond
I think Tulu moves ahead of Mingo & below Walley once he's fully up and running
It was 9 going into today.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
EspnQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
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Today made 9Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
24 tds 9 ints is a turnover machine?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
WrongQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
No. But 19 turnovers isQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Are there some really arguing corral isn't a stud qb? That 187 passer rating entering the game vs an all sec schedule is gaudy. For reference, dak's top passer rating was 151 in 2015. It's ok to admit corral is really damn good.
Tally them up each game where you have more than 9.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Matt corral has 14 ints and 5 fumbles this year. Heck he threw 6 ints against arky and 5 tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
6 vs arkQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
5 vs LSU
2 vs auburn
1 vs fla
I'm not even including fumbles yet.
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...74/matt-corral
I don't know what qualifies as stud.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
But nobody is arguing that he is immensely talented. Great arm strength. Good mobility.
But he struggles with decision making. He also has multiple projected skill nfl guys and OL (3). He is a half field read qb with a good arm who throws the deep ball well.
I stand corrected with ints.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
He's had 2 really bad TO games. Weren't both in the rain?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
He's gonna be really, really good next season.
Corral is a scary college player to face, but last nights game showed the first 6 int wasn't a fluke. It's going to kill him projecting to the next level. But as for college, he can light you up video game style.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He certainly can't have the meltdown TO games, but he really has had some monster games. He had 5 200+ passer rating games this year including against Florida and Bama. For reference, trask is the only other qb to top 140 vs Bama this year, and he was at 175; corral was 208.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
Defenses as a whole in the SEC were not as good this year for whatever reason, lack of spring practice, rona sit outs, etc. No doubt Corral is a good QB, but I don't get the hate for Will. He's a true freshman and he's done pretty well for a guy that looks 13, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Nature of the game... when we lose, no one besides bucky really comes to Will's defense. When we win, lots are here to sing praise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacknut
He's the quarterback. In Leach's system, if we lose he probably had a bad game. If we win, he probably had a good game. I'm not saying he's better than Corral, but i'll take what we have in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Man. I give up.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
If I had the time I would go back and find your posts calling him my QB and that he would struggle to start. All he has done since then is break records and start every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
But then again you are the same cat who says no one cares about stats only winning but then in the next post brag on corrals stats, while he has 1 more win than will, while having way more experience and way better skill guys. They have went head to head one time and will has the egg bowl record. With 2 decent WRs. And should have won the game with 45 players on his team. An unbiased person would admit defeat in this argument
We are close. I will admit that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Criticism is fine. Bullshit takes are not
Well tell him at Christmas we appreciate everything he?s done this year and hope to see him break every record we have. Can?t speak for others, but when I criticize him it?s the same I?d do for any QB. Kid plays well for a true freshman hope to see him improve with an off seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****