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Is it just me or is adu basically the exact same as he was as a freshman?
Our men's basketball program is completely dead ...the worst program in the conference
Worst program in the conference? Are you an idiot? Pull up some stats/records to support this claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
State lost this game on Free Throw line 8-28. Wow
Yes we don't look good and I'm beginning to get tired of Howland also... but we opened up against Clemson without Molinar with a young team so its hard to expect alot. But Howland I'm done taking up for Howland. I haven't seen any improvement since he has been at MSU
As far as support and attention from the athletic department and alums. This administration decided a few years ago that men's basketball just wasn't going to be a priority going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I’m worried that FT effort isn’t a fluke. None of those guys have smooth shooting motions that make you think they hit 65-70% on a normal day.
No true ball handlers (outside of Molinar). Deivon will be one in time, but he looks like a very tentative freshman. DJ is being asked to do too much. He's a jump shooter and defender. He can't run the show. No handles. Ado has not improved a bit in 4 years. Matthews, Tolu, and Javian Davis will help this year and only get better. All 3 were pretty impressive. Jalen Johnson is just running around out there. He's a nonfactor
Holding off judgment for a season projection until we can see how Molinar runs the show though. If he can be a serviceable PG and knock down some shots (supposedly he's improved his shooting dramatically) we'll be decent. It's hard to be even mediocre if you don't have a PG who can get the offense going.
We do have more freshmen and sophomores than ANY team I the country through. So, the future is bright...I guess?
Well I'll give you that. We are a crappy MBK fanbase. On the court though, we are far from the worst. We've been solid top half last 3 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
Tripp McNeely when we were signing all of those long forwards and bigs I brought up ball handling and PG play, we don't have enough guys that can handle the ball. In years past we had Q, Nick, Peter's and Carter who could all handle it... now we are down to 2 guys. You win with guard play in College and we lack depth there. We should have at least picked up a JUCO PG for depth
This is Howland's swan song. His no-plan, anemic offense has plagued him everywhere he's gone. 1998 Big East basketball just isn't going to cut it these days.
I just don’t see offensive talent - in years past you could see guys who were capable of being scoring options early in their career. Way too many of our guys for that athletic slasher role with no true shooting or scoring ability.
Maybe we should just full court press 100% of the time.
Hopefully it’s just one game and there were a bunch of nerves involved but I’m concerned at this point.
UCLA led the pac12 in scoring his last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
Honestly I think Howland watches too much NBA and thinks if we just recruit enough athletes we?ll score by just being more athletic.
He seems to value that in recruiting more than guys who can shoot, dribble or pass better, but are not as dynamic. For instance he would have never recruited that Clemson guard who was the one guy hitting outside shots with a sweet shooting motion. He would have never passed Howlands eye test.
He thinks he can take plus athletes and teach them how to shoot and score and that’s not been working out so well for us.
Should've been better with three NBA guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We play again tomorrow. Hopefully we see some improvements
Exactly, we have 3 guys who were drafted to the NBA the last 2 years even though they were 2nd rounders... they were all 1 of only 60 players selected per their respective year. So we had 3 NBA draftees playing and didn't really winQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
All 3 on nba rosters 2021?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Hopefully we do. I wanna see 5-7 games before I judge themQuote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Q signed another 2 way contract and he played in the bubble last year in true NBA games.. They like him alot. Perry is with the Nets and they are calling him the 2nd round sleeper. Woodard is with the Kings, the like him as a true 3 and D guy so our guys are in good position to contribute on NBA teams. Im still not sure why we weren't better with those 3 playingQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We were a 5-seed with those 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Samford scored 174 tonight. I don't care if they played the school for the blind, that's better than 40 something vs Clemson.
I don?t think we would break 100 playing air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Thats my point, we should have been better with 3 NBA draftees on our team. Howland hasn't done much with the talent we have had.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7