You aren't in the minority. The MState is the university logo as decided by MSU leadership. The MState logo is worn by fans everywhere on game days of all sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
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You aren't in the minority. The MState is the university logo as decided by MSU leadership. The MState logo is worn by fans everywhere on game days of all sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Exactly. It isn't like you would be making some big improvement to the look of the helmet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
It's 2020....with the advancements in graphic design, a big company like adidas should get a lot more creative and come up with a look that is very unique and interesting.
Those white look so damn goodQuote:
Originally Posted by ChillbillyRock
- The leadership was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
- Of course people wear it. What other options do they have?
The helmet in your avatar looks like complete assQuote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Well, when you go to buy merchandise that is basically the only option you have. So yeah, that makes sense since that logo is what the merch stores sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
If they were all selling a different logo everyone would be wearing that logo.
Back in the fall I was at maroon and company. They had plenty of MS baseball logo polos, T-shirt's and jerseys. None sold out and most on sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
But hey.... if State fans want to create the narrative that all State fans hate their own logo, go ahead. That would be par for MSU. "Poor ole me trudging along with this god awful logo on my chest. If only we had leadership as smart as me, we'd win the national championship." Hahahaha.
They would sell if they were on the football helmet. That's the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
We aren't fully leveraging our best logo.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Maroonthirteen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Where did I say anything like that? Sorry your panties got in a bunch because you take it to heart when Shotgun makes fun of your opinion of which logo is better on a helmet. I'm not defending either of them. The whole conversation is dumb and strictly hypothetical.
It's known in the MSU community the M over S is baseball. Whether the administration wants to change that is up to them. There is a private school here in Chattanooga who has nearly the exact colors and (M over S) logo for their school logo. So that wouldn't do us much good in this area for branding. Not like the M-State logo. But that's a drop in the bucket.
Is it really surprising to you that all of the baseball attire didn't get bought up? It's a big MSU sport for those who love baseball but realistically, a large portion probably doesn't care much about it until we get into the postseason. So they buy the primary logo because that is their only option and can wear it to all sports without having to drop $300 on clothing to cover football and baseball.
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The bottom line is, if you want to buy a shirt with your school's logo on it then you are going to buy the primary logo more than likely. If your team has a secondary logo for a particular sport and you don't care about that sport, you will stick with the primary. Since football has more fans more people buy the primary logo instead of the M over S ones you are referring to that were on sale.
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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
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ETA: I can't believe we agree on something Gun!
Opinions are like a-holes.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
1. Interlocking logo
2. State script on the concept helmet
3. Flying M
4. M over S
5. M-state Banner
I don't like the M over S near as much as I thought I would.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
I don't like the M over S near as much as I thought I would.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
The MoverS looks really good and is absolutely a far superior logo to the M-State. I avoid buying anything with M-State on it if I can and look for the MoverS.
I'm fine if you want to keep it baseball-specific; just go back to some form of the interlocking M-S-U. The M-State has come a long way, I will say that. It doesn't look nearly as bad as it used to. But it's still not great.
This is all that needs to be said. It's just another retread of a tired Shotgun opinion that he desperately brings up when he can't think of any other topic. (See: South Endzone)Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
^^^this. A few years ago I started only buying gear with the M over S logo. I wear it to football, baseball, volleyball, softball alumni events, work on Friday and church on Sunday after a big win on Saturday. It is our most popular logo, I would say, based on the fact that if you find a nice pullover or shirt with the logo on it they tend to sell out. Hell, those black baseball hats are damn near impossible to find two weeks into the season every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
I'm not wading into the 'it should be on our helmet discussion' but the argument that it's reserved for baseball is a not founded on anything other that people don't like change.
Basically what I'm saying is that I think M over S is our most popular logo, hands down. That and the current log on our football helmets sucks some kind of bad. I do not have the vocabulary to express how much I dislike it on the side of a football helmet. Use it for other things, hell I think it looks good on the basketball court,...just get it off the helmet.
You and shotgun and others have clearly stated MState is the only option. It isn't.
I'm not upset. Matt Wyatt and people feeding Shotgun seem to be ones upset with a logo and pushing for a change.
My post clearly says "basically your only option"Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
After some thought I am not a fan of the script. The "s" looks like a backwards "&" and the school that I despise more than anything in the world has Script on their helmets and as if they are not annoying enough already, I can hear it now, "Lil brother had to copy us....."
I think you just proved what the original poster was saying. It's our best logo but it's not leveraged. I LOVE the MoverS used by baseball....but it's only marketed as a baseball logo. College baseball (while fun) is about the 4th-5th ranked sport in college. It just doesn't pull as many fans. I've been buying vintage styled t-shirts since the M-State logo came out to avoid that eye-sore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Not interested at all in the M over S. Seeing it confirms that in my mind. Hope we never do that.
But that "State" script is fire. 100. A+++ Hope we see that as an alternate helmet someday. Great job on that chill.
Yeah, 63 replies based on only Shotgun wanting to talk about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
I think the M State is clean. I acknowledge it's not perfect for a helmet but it's a good logo. I can spot it a mile away now when I see it on a car or a shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Everyone has one and most of them stink!Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
It's just too generic to me for a football helmet.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Imagine Michigan putting this on their helmet. You tell me what is better for branding?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_Logo.svg.png
We all want the M over S because we can’t have it. If it was our current logo, we would all be bitching wanting the banner M, it’s what we do.
yeah the current M State logo I think it solid and deserves a prominent place in University marketing. It's great for license plates, window stickers, letterhead, signs, etc. but to me just isn't a great sports logo outside maybe some basketball usage.
I guess I am surprised at two things:
1) How much everyone seems to dislike the block on the letter (I knew it wasn't great)
2) How many people dislike the baseball logo on the helmet since I think it looks awesome
I also don't disagree with trying to make "State" our thing in the southeast. That's a good idea and it's great to throw up on actual jerseys but while I like the helmet concept with State on it, to me it doesn't hold a candle to the M over S variant.
Yep, 21 by you and now 6 by me... plus the obligatory response from C34 stating that the logo in his avatar is the best. That's about half of them right there. No one is denying you know how to keep a thread going. Reply with at least 1/3 of the responses, even if you are just repeating yourself, to keep the thread at the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
But hey, with Scooba, Cadaver, Coach 34, Coach 007 and others MIA lately, I guess we need you Shotgun. (*pat on the back)
The M over S looks like a JV high school football helmet from the midwest. Thats why.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Looks good form the right side of the helmet but how would State look from the left side trying to fit the capitol S in next to the facemaskQuote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
It's marketing as a baseball logo because it is a quintessential baseball logo. see the the uniforms of the yankees, Mets etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
College baseball is a very close 2nd fan favorite sport at MSU. See this thread.
Saying MS is the best logo is opinion. My opinion is that State fans like that logo because of the baseball history And the logo itself isn't that great. It's a simple baseball logo. Opinion.
This is where we disagree. I think the logo is sharp, crisp, & TimelessQuote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
And Bert. He may be KIA though (hope not).Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
I was wondering the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
The Stayte one is pretty damn good. The M over S looks like a baseball logo on a football helmet**Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I used the same thought process when designing this logo in honor of the Pirate. I just went with the best looking representation we have. Just like when I buy a hat. M over S every time whether I plan on wearing it to a football game or baseball game. Here are a few things I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
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I actually think the M state logo doesn't look bad as our official logo. I just think it looks horrible on a helmet. LSU, Florida, and Alabama don't wear their main logos on their helmets. I don't think it hurts their brand. The State script would be cool bc it would help establish us as "State" which I think most agree makes us unique.
I think the majority of MSU fans agree with this post. Not all, but the majority. Good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1