Look, its simple. If normal ticket holders can't buy beer, there shouldn't be beer or alcohol allowed in the suites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Look, its simple. If normal ticket holders can't buy beer, there shouldn't be beer or alcohol allowed in the suites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Q: Do you know the difference 'tween a Jew and a Southern Baptist?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
A: One doesn't recognize Jesus as the Son of God.... the others don't recognize each other in the Liquor Store.
If alcohol is fine at club level, but not for the general fan, then it's not about principle as stated in another post. Unless the principle is about selling and not consuming. Even in that scenario, one pays for the privilege to consume at club level. Or is that more like paying for the privilege to not get busted while sneaking it in?Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
There is no sneaking it into Club Level. On Friday afternoon/night, you can walk in Club Level with whatever you want. If you are loaded down they will help you carry it. No bags, no being discrete, but that’s just one of the privileges you are paying for. I think they should open up beer sales just for the revenue. It's a college sporting event, there has always been alcohol at college games and there always will, might as well make a little money on it. I’d be will to say that a $12 beer will cut down on the amount of alcohol consumed in the stadium.
Tusk, you know the difference between a Methodist and a Baptist? A Methodist will speak to you if you bump into them in the liquor store!
So I guess you don't go to bowl games out of principal since alcohol is sold at most of those? I didn't notice any unruly behavior in Nashville, other than from myself due to being so pissed off and I didn't have any beer.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
And I guess you don't go to DNF since people have coolers with beer in there. Gosh, what a den of debauchery that place is.***
Again, the places around the country that sell beer have studied this and there has not been an issue with increased disruptive behavior in the stadiums or alcohol related traffic accidents afterwards.
And one reason this keeps coming up is because no one has given a clear answer as to why we aren't doing it. The "truth" as provided by R2Dawg on Elitedawgs isn't good enough.
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Originally Posted by DeltaChicagoDog
Bingo. Get that Keemun acting on principle crap out of here
Great pointQuote:
Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg
It's probably because the reasoning is so petty, that they know they'll be crucified if they tell us
I agree with you! I do want to point out those are private suites that they pay a lot of money for. It is isolated from the rest of the stadium. I look at it like the lofts at the baseball field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
Or maybe the answer is actually easier -Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Our game day management has been shit the past couple of years - last year in particular. Parking, traffic control, concessions, security have all been a nightmare. Maybe the administration has no confidence in our vendors and contractors that provide these services and want to fix our existing problems before we add another layer of problems to the picture? Could you imagine us effectively selling alcohol last year when Aramark couldn't even staff concession stands?
All evidence I have seen, points toward allowing beer sales at the games actually causes less incidents with less pregame binge fests. Smart people change their minds when presented with new evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
I know it isn't an exciting drama filed conspiracy but I think this ^^^^. Plus my post pointing out, beer sales isn't exactly a huge payday for the school..... is the reason we aren't selling beer yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Well I've sat next to drunks at games that didn't sell alcohol. Wonder how that happened? I've been to games with alcohol flowing all over that wasn't being sold in the stadium and nobody had a problem. I've also been to many games where alcohol was being sold and no one had a problem. Sometimes drunks are just drunks and you will have to deal with it whether it's being sold in the stadium or not. that's just going to sporting events or anywhere for that matter. Not selling it in the stadium is like the kindergarten rules people try to apply over the whole group for a couple bad eggs. Not everyone who drinks at game gets crazy wasted and Is an ass to everyone around them.
I've drank at multiple games and never accosted anyone except maybe yelling at a ref or coach. Plenty of non drinkers do that too. I've also sat next to people slap drunk at games who didn't buy it in the game. I've also sat next to plenty of fans who bought a lot of drinks at a game and they were fine and nice. I've also sat close to people who were assholes who didn't have anything to drink at all.
This whole selling alcohol and drinking at the games ruins the family atmosphere is BS logic.
Hey those three beers I had in the super dome last season were pretty good albeit expensive. Was nice to be in the ac drink some beers and watch us struggle to beat ULL. Had a great time. Wife and I sat next to a family of 4 with two small kids. Family had a blast. They didn't seem to have a problem with me drinking a few beers at the game. Why? Because I am responsible and not an ass which would be the majority of the the people drinking at the game. Drunks are shown the exits most of the time and would be no different than it is now.
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Originally Posted by R2Dawg
So Keenum stands on his principles with the regular crowd but he has none with the people in the premium sections who he literally lets stock lockers and pour beers in front of security guards at every game? Dude GTFOH. Basically every insider at MSU says that we are going to start selling beer (probably next year). Once that happens what are you going to say about Keenum? Do his strong beliefs no longer matter to him? Is he then less of a Christian? Beer sales are coming to MSU. People want to know why it’s going to be in 2 years instead of now. If this garbage you are spewing was the real reason, Keenum would not fold and do it in another year, but he’s going to so that’s not the true reason.
If it takes 3 years to figure out how to sell beer in the stadium like every other sporting event in the world then we probably need someone else running the show. I mean how hard is it? At that point it’s not about alcohol it’s just about competency.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
That circus show inside DWS for the egg bowl.... was absolutely ridiculous. That game was the worst management and service at a sporting event that I have ever experienced. The 2nd poorest would be the USM game at DWS 2019. Someone better get that figured out now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
We finally agree on something. Took 8 years, but we have bridged the divide. First, they are only deemed private, so they can have alchohol. Deem every single season ticket holders seats as private then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Lambert
Family atmosphere... hell we drink at our family get togethers. Disney allows people to drink at all of their resorts and it is all family oriented.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Sounds to me, this is a bit out of touch with the customers.
Late to this party but this is the way I understand it.
1. Univiersities follow city/county ordinances.
2. Starkville is wet for liquor and beer. Oktibbeha county is dry for beer and wet for liquor.
3. Part of campus (frat row and sorority row) is actually in the city limits of Starkville while the rest is in the county.
4. In order to sell (or legally posses) beer in the stadium, MSU must petition the state for Davis Wade to become a resort at which point it could set its own rules.
5. Ole Miss did this years ago is the reason they can sell it. USM is fully within the city limits of Hattiesburg which is wet.
6. I have no idea if they are working on this or not and if they are not, I have no idea who is stopping it.
7. I do not know why they will confiscate a flask at the gate when they allow liquor to be stocked in lockers.
8. No matter if you are partying in the Junction or mixing one up in club level or the LFL, just don't be an ass and cause them to crackdown on what we've got now.
I remember years ago during one of the crackdowns out in LFL the year after somebody poured a beer on an Ole Miss outfielder, I saw a guy stopped at the LF gate who was forced to pour out at least a case right there at the gate. Turns out, he was big guy with the university or the university system. A VERY big guy. About 2 games after that incident, the crackdown was suddenly and unexpectedly over and baseball water was freely flowing again. Funny how things work isn't it.